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Title: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: TightEnd on August 16, 2012, 07:53:46 AM
Typically Day1a starts at 5pm or 7pm

Day 1b on a Saturday has been run with a 2pm start, or a 5pm start

Which Saturday start time do you prefer, and why?

Please vote, and please post your opinions


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: TightEnd on August 16, 2012, 07:55:36 AM
Rob stated

"i would prefer we started Saturday at 2pm but we always get more runners...... at a later start time, I'm interested in player feedback on Saturday start times, earlier is better for the club for cash games but we do our conkers on gtes in summer when we do 2pm starts"


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: MC on August 16, 2012, 07:58:16 AM
I prefer earlier start time so I can get home earlier.

Possible suggestion: Run two flights on Saturdays?


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Eso Kral on August 16, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
I prefer the 5pm start time as living in the arse end of Essex and being a recreational player can still work as I do most Saturdays and leave a coupleof hours early at 2pm and still get there on time as opposed to late regging and for travelling players we have normally come with the idea of staying overnight therefore the late finish is not a problem.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: smashedagain on August 16, 2012, 09:56:10 AM
I prefer the 5pm start time as living in the arse end of Essex and being a recreational player can still work as I do most Saturdays and leave a coupleof hours early at 2pm and still get there on time as opposed to late regging and for travelling players we have normally come with the idea of staying overnight therefore the late finish is not a problem.
But would you not play if it started at 2 pm Rich. My guess is that you would still play. Dtd get bigger overlays from the 2pm start but I am convinced it's coincidence. Who actually can't/won't  play because it starts 3 hours earlier. Poker players are degens and there are not many reasOns as to why they won't play. Being busto is the main one obv :)



Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: EvilPie on August 16, 2012, 10:01:21 AM
The later the better for me.

Reason is because it gives me more time to do other stuff during the day before I set off to play.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: smashedagain on August 16, 2012, 10:15:18 AM
The later the better for me.

Reason is because it gives me more time to do other stuff during the day before I set off to play.
Last post coz I'm boring myself. You would still play it it started ad 2 pm Matt even if you late reg'd. Just as I would play no matter what time it started.

It's best for Dtd to start earlier so just start earlier. Getting customer feedback is all well and good but look what happened with the Wsop sats. Loads of people said they wanted them and very few actually played em


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: EvilPie on August 16, 2012, 10:31:10 AM
The later the better for me.

Reason is because it gives me more time to do other stuff during the day before I set off to play.
Last post coz I'm boring myself. You would still play it it started ad 2 pm Matt even if you late reg'd. Just as I would play no matter what time it started.

It's best for Dtd to start earlier so just start earlier. Getting customer feedback is all well and good but look what happened with the Wsop sats. Loads of people said they wanted them and very few actually played em

No I wouldn't Jase so please don't make assumptions on my behalf.

2pm start with late reg up to 5pm is still a push for me. I prefer a 5pm start because it means I can late reg 'til 8pm.

I'd make the extra effort for a special comp like the £500k guarantee but usually I'd just give it a miss or try to play on the Friday.

I understand it's very different for pro poker players as they will play whatever time it starts. For a recreational player though there are more important things in life so poker has to fit around those.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Marky147 on August 16, 2012, 10:35:53 AM
Herbieaments :D


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: smashedagain on August 16, 2012, 10:38:45 AM
Herbieaments :D
:) said it would be last post. Not meant to offend Matt obv. :(

5pm start Friday 2pm start Saturday. Job done

Recreational players are the ones Dtd need to please because it is down to that majority to hit gtd prizes or not


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Eso Kral on August 16, 2012, 10:41:22 AM
I prefer the 5pm start time as living in the arse end of Essex and being a recreational player can still work as I do most Saturdays and leave a coupleof hours early at 2pm and still get there on time as opposed to late regging and for travelling players we have normally come with the idea of staying overnight therefore the late finish is not a problem.
But would you not play if it started at 2 pm Rich. My guess is that you would still play. Dtd get bigger overlays from the 2pm start but I am convinced it's coincidence. Who actually can't/won't  play because it starts 3 hours earlier. Poker players are degens and there are not many reasOns as to why they won't play. Being busto is the main one obv :)


Well I would probably play the Friday then ala Matt or have to take the day off to play which then means a day off away from the family and influences whether I would play or not.
Obv for the bigger Gtd events I would find a way of getting there.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: bobAlike on August 16, 2012, 10:50:38 AM
Lol posting from phone. I voted for 5pm by mistake. Def prefer 2pm.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: smashedagain on August 16, 2012, 10:54:07 AM
My point is you guys would still play these two day events even if you had to play Friday. Obv I understand there are more important things than poker ( I am playing Friday night this week, but have always played 1b Saturdays because it fits round the kids better).

Dtd want to know of people who wont play the comp because it starts at 2 pm on the Saturday. There must be people out there who have a reason to not play the tourney because it starts 3 hours earlier but I can't think of one. I just don't buy that the overlay is because of the 2pm start.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: nirvana on August 16, 2012, 12:20:35 PM
Prefer 5pm since I'm travelling to play


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: AndrewT on August 16, 2012, 12:41:53 PM
How about reducing the guarantee - that way you don't get stung on the overlay. Then you can see whether the extra revenue you get from cash games from the early start is more or less than the reduction in tourney fees you get from the fewer runners in the earlier comp.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Junior Senior on August 16, 2012, 12:47:12 PM
5pm is better as like others have said you can get shit done in the day and not get too much grief from family and friends for not being able to do stuff on the Saturday. Too overlapping flights is not a bad shout but would need thought wrong logistics and ring fencing tables for table moves etc


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Cf on August 16, 2012, 12:48:42 PM
The later the better for me.

Reason is because it gives me more time to do other stuff during the day before I set off to play.

I prefer the 2pm start for this reason. Given that I have a lie in on Saturdays and that it takes me an hour or so to travel down I find the 5pm start just leaves me with a few hours to waste with not much time to do anything substantial. I'd rather just get up and head straight to dtd.

I vaguely recall it used to start at 7pm? If that was an option here I'd be voting for that. 7pm leaves enough time to actually do something with the Saturday.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: AndrewT on August 16, 2012, 12:50:23 PM
Some people want to get stuff done during the day, others don't want to spend all night playing poker. Two flights may be an option - it's not really a problem from logistics as it's essentially just a day 1b and 1c happening on the same day.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Junior Senior on August 16, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
Could do a 1pm and 7pm?


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: flushthemout on August 16, 2012, 04:36:18 PM
defo 2pm start, but run well in 5pm starts, but seriously 2pm is good if u play Saturday and bag up, for a snooze in on Sunday, but managing a footy team on a sunday i have to arise early and live local so no real problem but would prefer 2pm start.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: EvilPie on August 16, 2012, 04:42:43 PM
If I was travelling a decent distance or staying over somewhere to play I'd definitely prefer the 2pm start.

This is because I'd have the dog in kennels and pretty much have arranged the whole weekend around poker.

As I'm local to DTD it changes for me and I like to squeeze in dog walking duties etc. in before I head off to play.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: TightEnd on August 16, 2012, 04:46:24 PM
I think that's likely to be a common split

If you are local, 5pm is likely to suit. You've got time to do stuff, maybe take in Saturday afternoon sport too and still be at DTD way before a 7pm late entry cut off

As someone travelling, booking a hotel etc, 2pm is likely to suit


For my part, not that it matters, when I am updating a 2pm start is much better as I don't have all day waiting around to work..in this sense I'm more like a travelling player


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: flushthemout on August 16, 2012, 04:49:43 PM
nothing worse than waiting all day for the £150.00 and a 2pm start gives u the chance to play a bit of cash once you go Busto


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Tal on August 16, 2012, 04:57:10 PM
Would there be any chance of a 6 or 7pm Friday start, so us workaholics have a choice of day 1s?

I recognise problem of staff shifts then with more dealers working late into sat morning and then possibly back in for 2 or 5pm.

Just asking really whether it's a) feasible and b) favourable


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: cambridgealex on August 16, 2012, 04:59:50 PM
2pm better for me, better for the cash games.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Sweetman on August 16, 2012, 05:16:49 PM
2pm is better for me. However I don't mind 5pm starts as finishing at 2am isn't the end of the world.
Think herbie has the right sentiment; do what is most financially beneficial for the club.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: blueace on August 16, 2012, 05:18:39 PM
A 2pm start is far better, I miss the 2pm starts... and while we are there surely we can have a torn or two with a re-entry in the month.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Tal on August 16, 2012, 05:27:13 PM
Sorry, yes, to address the question, 2pm is preferable but only preferable. 5pm hasn't stopped me from coming to DTD where I would have gone at 2


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: KarmaDope on August 16, 2012, 05:55:40 PM
2pm for me, both as an updater and a player.

The main reason I would prefer 2pm is if (unlikely) I made Day 2, I'd be pretty pissed having to come back in 9-10hrs time to play Day 2 as the 5pm starts generally dont finish until 3am!


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: smashedagain on August 16, 2012, 06:08:11 PM
Is there anyone who won't play a comp because it starts at 2 pm instead of 5 pm


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: TightEnd on August 16, 2012, 06:10:09 PM
Is there anyone who won't play a comp because it starts at 2 pm instead of 5 pm

Herbietronics.

This has already been answered. Matt wouldn't unless it was a special comp.



Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: tikay on August 16, 2012, 06:11:51 PM
Is there anyone who won't play a comp because it starts at 2 pm instead of 5 pm

Moving banner, nice red colour, large font.

Quality way for Herbie to celebrate his 4th "last post" on the subject.

Over under line - 7?

:)


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: tikay on August 16, 2012, 06:14:57 PM
Herbie.

You do realise I hope that we have to pay extra server costs for large font and moving banners?

They use extra electricity and need a bigger pipe, see?


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Skippy on August 16, 2012, 06:15:46 PM
Is there anyone who won't play a comp because it starts at 2 pm instead of 5 pm

There must be, as Rob says attendances are down when they start at 5.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: smashedagain on August 16, 2012, 06:16:48 PM
Lol sorry. Dock my salary again :)

Pure coincidence Skippy

And of course Matt would play ;hide;  ;shitfanhit;


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: david3103 on August 16, 2012, 07:16:11 PM
Voted for 2pm for all the usual reasons. Travelling, chance to play some cash at the end of Day1, or to get some sleep, and leaving home at 1030 isn't much different in it's impact from leaving at 1530 since the day gets jiggered in both cases.

The start time isn't an issue that would stop me playing though.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: h on August 16, 2012, 07:48:37 PM
my prefer ed options
5 pm start on Friday - why because i can get there without taking time off work (finish early Friday afternoon sure lots of others do as well ) finish time if still there makes no difference as day 2 sunday
2 pm on Saturday - why because an earlier finish time would mean  i could chose between driving home or getting hotel  ( live about 1 hr 40  Min's  away )
NOON  on sunday - last thing want to think about is what time  will it finish what time do i have to be at work ! think the last £200 was 3:30 am ?


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: TightEnd on August 17, 2012, 09:20:23 AM
More votes required please!


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: PizzicatoXev on August 17, 2012, 11:09:21 AM
I voted for 2pm though if I am going to play an event I am going to play regardless of the start time.

I prefer the 2pm start though because of the advantages of finishing earlier and then having the choice of being able to play cash, socialise or to be able to get a decent amount of sleep in before returning to DTD the following day.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Gizsumcash on August 17, 2012, 04:01:46 PM
5pm Friday because of work (finish at 5pm) and 2pm saturdays for the reasons stated above. Chance to play cash after or have a early night etc.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: CHIPPYMAN on August 17, 2012, 04:51:15 PM
Don't care!!! Anytime will do me . Only 25 minutes away,
so any hours will suits me.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: THISnTHAT on August 17, 2012, 08:22:21 PM
Travelling over 2 hrs to play at DTD a 2 pm start on a Saturday for me!
5pm on a Friday would be fine
Whatever the start time I will still play when I can


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Vinodh on August 17, 2012, 09:02:01 PM
Already voted for 2 PM on Saturdays definitely for me!


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: istrabraq on August 17, 2012, 11:48:38 PM
2pm Saturday's  like early finish


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: cambridgealex on August 18, 2012, 03:10:09 AM
2pm crushing it


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: david3103 on August 18, 2012, 08:41:58 AM
2pm crushing it

But if all the votes for 2pm are in the 'prefer 2pm but will play if it starts at 5' category, and all the votes for 5pm are in the 'wouldn't play if it starts at 5' category then the vote is misleading for Rob and DTD.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: George2Loose on August 18, 2012, 10:31:59 AM
Surely if people are voting for 5pm with their feet it should stay there?


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: leethefish on August 18, 2012, 12:53:20 PM
2 pm is the more popular choice


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: david3103 on August 18, 2012, 04:29:25 PM
2 pm is the more popular choice


Either, with a preference for 2pm looks pretty significant. The poll is rather polarised by having just the two options.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: smashedagain on August 18, 2012, 05:27:17 PM
I suggested to Rob last night that 2 starting flights might be better on the Saturday. Means added costs in dealer wages etc but if we save on the overlay then all is well.  ;hide; ;goodvevil;


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: johnb1 on August 18, 2012, 08:51:12 PM
I definitely have missed a number of 2pm start tournies that i would have played if they started later, so i prefer a 5pm start. That said i am still playing the next deepstack 2pm start.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Fenix35 on August 21, 2012, 01:03:22 PM
Some places I've played in the states have had an 11am start for flight a and a 6pm start for flight b. Worked pretty well but 11am might be pushing it a little too early :p who knows!


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: mfcrocker on August 21, 2012, 02:27:11 PM
A 5pm start isn't enough to completely put me off some tournaments but there's some that I wouldn't bother with - slogging back to Bristol at stupid o'clock in the morning is no fun at all.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Tommy Bingham on August 21, 2012, 03:24:46 PM
For weekend torneys that play 1A, 1B and Day 2: 5/6PM start Fridays. 2PM Saturday. The bigger market is part time players, majority of which have a job. 5/6PM start gives time for people to commute down when they finish at 5. People who are tied up and cant make Saturday due to family commitments/other plans etc. can still play. Yes there is late reg. but alot of people hate turning up 5 levels late and enjoy the first few spewy levels! 2PM on Saturday so people who drive down can bag up, and have enough time to get a decent sleep without havin to cover costs of a hotel just for Day 2.


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: david3103 on August 21, 2012, 03:54:09 PM
For weekend torneys that play 1A, 1B and Day 2: 5/6PM start Fridays. 2PM Saturday. The bigger market is part time players, majority of which have a job. 5/6PM start gives time for people to commute down when they finish at 5. People who are tied up and cant make Saturday due to family commitments/other plans etc. can still play. Yes there is late reg. but alot of people hate turning up 5 levels late and enjoy the first few spewy levels! 2PM on Saturday so people who drive down can bag up, and have enough time to get a decent sleep without havin to cover costs of a hotel just for Day 2.

You do realise that a lot of us drive a lot longer than an hour to get to DTD?


Title: Re: Poll: Start times for DTD Two Day events
Post by: Tommy Bingham on August 21, 2012, 04:12:37 PM
For weekend torneys that play 1A, 1B and Day 2: 5/6PM start Fridays. 2PM Saturday. The bigger market is part time players, majority of which have a job. 5/6PM start gives time for people to commute down when they finish at 5. People who are tied up and cant make Saturday due to family commitments/other plans etc. can still play. Yes there is late reg. but alot of people hate turning up 5 levels late and enjoy the first few spewy levels! 2PM on Saturday so people who drive down can bag up, and have enough time to get a decent sleep without havin to cover costs of a hotel just for Day 2.

You do realise that a lot of us drive a lot longer than an hour to get to DTD?


Yes, definately. What I mean is 5-6PM would be balanced.

Insted of starting at 2PM, where alot of people who head down after 5PM/work (with a 1 hour or even a 3 hour drive) arrive with a 30 big blind stack. It's meant to be a deepstack. And also, people are put off by not being there at the start.
Why not start at 8PM where a mass majority can play? Cus you have people getting home at 7AM, loads of dealers and staff costs to bear in mind who will be there till closing. No cash games after bagging up etc. It just wouldn't work to swing it all it either direction.

My point is, 5PM-6PM start gives on average, people time to head down to reach the start of the torney, or for longer commuters (including myself who sometimes have to drive 3 hours) time to register with a decent playable stack.