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Title: Flopped NFD in multiway pot
Post by: the rage on August 18, 2012, 12:36:19 PM
Playing an $11.0 online comp on PokerStars
7727 runners
I currently have about the average stack of the 236 players remaining
Due to table moves, i have very little history with villian, but, of the 31 hands that we have been on the table, he has been quite active (29/10)
I decided to lead out on the flop, my thinking being that, as it is multiway, i will probably get some action, so i will build the pot for if i do hit my nut flush draw, whilst hopefully disguising the strentgh of my hand. I'm planning on going all in if i get re-raised on the flop.
I would appreciate any feedback on how i played the hand up to the river, whether my thinking regarding my line on the flop is flawed or not, and finally, how should i proceed  on the river.

PokerStars Hand #84779894567: Tournament #612010493, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXV (1400/2800) - 2012/08/15 23:40:08 WET [2012/08/15 18:40:08 ET]
Table '612010493 190' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Niles.DK (70442 in chips)
Seat 2: luxy88malo (205880 in chips)
Seat 3: Compromat013 (55346 in chips)
Seat 4: MuggsyB (35576 in chips)
Seat 5: inkycan (157153 in chips)
Seat 6: stipa2211 (144884 in chips)
Seat 7: taebo25 (175922 in chips)
Seat 8: the rage (83785 in chips)
Seat 9: Tommy C 06 (115941 in chips)
Niles.DK: posts the ante 350
luxy88malo: posts the ante 350
Compromat013: posts the ante 350
MuggsyB: posts the ante 350
inkycan: posts the ante 350
stipa2211: posts the ante 350
taebo25: posts the ante 350
the rage: posts the ante 350
Tommy C 06: posts the ante 350
the rage: posts small blind 1400
Tommy C 06: posts big blind 2800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to the rage [Kd Td]
Niles.DK: folds
luxy88malo: folds
Compromat013: folds
MuggsyB: folds
inkycan: calls 2800
stipa2211: folds
taebo25: calls 2800
the rage: calls 1400
Tommy C 06: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ad 3d Qc]
the rage: bets 7175
Tommy C 06: folds
inkycan: calls 7175
taebo25: folds
*** TURN *** [Ad 3d Qc] [As]
the rage: checks
inkycan: bets 8400
the rage: calls 8400
*** RIVER *** [Ad 3d Qc As] [2d]
inkycan: bets 16000
the rage??


Title: Re: Flopped NFD in multiway pot
Post by: muckthenuts on August 19, 2012, 02:03:03 AM
Shove. Absolutely gotta stack all Ax and worse flushes he won't be folding


Title: Re: Flopped NFD in multiway pot
Post by: DMorgan on August 19, 2012, 04:22:28 AM
I don't really like the flop lead, we pretty much prevent anyone from bluffing at this pot so would definitely prefer a c/r.

As played I think on the turn he has Ax pretty much always with that sizing. River is gin, he doesn't even need to have any flushes in his range to make this a jam. AQ raises pre, 33 and A3 most likely raise the flop. He just has so much Ax that you're beating and villain as described and in an $11 tournament isn't folding any Ax to a river jam.


Title: Re: Flopped NFD in multiway pot
Post by: zerofive on August 19, 2012, 04:29:04 AM
How many paid?

It bothers me a little that our hand looks so much like what it is, but most players at $11 aren't folding many Ax hands or flushes anyway so allin seems like the best cEV play.

Your decision to jam facing aggression on the flop is fine as well imo, only really hate to see bottom set but even then we have a gazillion outs.

Does anyone have a plan for the turn if villain bets any sort of real % on the turn. Like upward of 15k?


Title: Re: Flopped NFD in multiway pot
Post by: TL900 on August 19, 2012, 04:56:38 AM
c/call or c/r flop dependant on what happens. c/fold turn as played. shove river as played, i expect to see 33 alot though.


Title: Re: Flopped NFD in multiway pot
Post by: the rage on August 19, 2012, 10:52:53 AM
How many paid?
Not sure exactly how many paid, but im already in the money. The big prizes are on the final table.
Thanks for the replies so far, really helpful.


Title: Re: Flopped NFD in multiway pot
Post by: the rage on August 21, 2012, 11:08:30 PM
Villian had A2o for the rivered full house.


Title: Re: Flopped NFD in multiway pot
Post by: Young_gun on August 23, 2012, 09:10:36 PM
Dont like lead on flop either, C/c or c/r with a view to get in IMO

might aswell just call and shove river as played


Title: Re: Flopped NFD in multiway pot
Post by: discomonkey on August 27, 2012, 01:48:25 AM
hate flop lead, c/r is better
on river i think shoving is a must, too many ax non full houses that may sigh call