Title: Nut low trips Post by: zerofive on August 19, 2012, 04:45:24 AM £1/2 cash at dusk
villain seems fairly loose passive, eg calls K9o behind OR then check calls on 7 6 5r not closing the action. Stacked him first hand with AK, and have since opened one or two pots and check-folded some terrible flops so think he sees me as passive and probably bad (which confirms he's not dead.) He starts with just shy of £300, probably like £275 and we cover. Pot was opened to £5, villain calls next, three more callers to my bb where i flick it in with 3c 2c Flop (£30) 3h 4c 3s I check - I know this is a bet sometimes but texture doesn't nail much so checking felt okay. Checked around. Turn (£30) 3h 4c 3s Ts Small blind leads for £15 - he's playing £60~ behind and looking for a reason to leave so if I flat here he'll likely mash the rest in on the river. I call £15. Villain raises to £60 playing £210~ behind. Folded back to us. We ? Title: Re: Nut low trips Post by: DMorgan on August 19, 2012, 05:14:25 AM Fold pre. Seriously, flicking it in with these bs hands costs you soooooo much money and yeah you're getting lots to one etc but its a multiway pot so you're barely ever going to win it without making the best hand and you're just making bowl flushes/straights in situations where because its a multiway pot and its live, people are for sure flicking in with all of the hands that will make better straights and flushes when you do. You just get into so many shitty spots. Yeah its live and boring and you don't see many hands but you'll save enough money to buy an ipad pretty quick. /rant
I think check > bet on this flop. The reason for leading with big hands in multiway pots is to make sure that you get value from marginal hands that might check, but here I don't think thats really a problem since 4x/56 are probably betting anyway, whereas you'd want to lead 87 on 69T because 9x is almost always checking and some Tx will too. Turn is kinda gross. Fairly optimistic to give him even semi bluffs let alone air and we're obv under it vs his value range that he raises over a bet and a call. If you think that he might do this with Tx to 'find out where he is' then you can peel and c/fold river but given his fairly passive tendencies it should probably be a fold on the turn. In game I obv peel one though. Might ping a 2 :D P.S. Fold pre Title: Re: Nut low trips Post by: muckthenuts on August 19, 2012, 09:30:38 AM I think peeling is probably just about ok here as we're suited and connected and getting a great price closing the action. Dmorgan makes some v good points though about not getting peel happy in these spots and it's definitely better to err on the side of caution if you wanna save money, so folding would also be good imo.
Lead flop >> check flop. Loads of hands can call, nobody will fold 55+, 4x, A2/A5 type hands live and it also enables us to play the hand way easier down the streets this way. Title: Re: Nut low trips Post by: tight4better on August 19, 2012, 10:22:07 AM Call re-evaluate. Not exactly a ton of 3's in his range even though he seems a bit stationy.
Looking back it honestly looks like he's happy just setting the SB in for the rest hoping you muck a similar hand to his. I'd be calling most rivers too even though we have nut low trips. edit: I'd also probs donk the flop. Title: Re: Nut low trips Post by: SuuPRlim on August 19, 2012, 12:45:28 PM checking the flop seems fine to me, someone makes a decent pair OTT and you usually get 2 streets the way these games play.
I think we have a pretty simple call/call tbh, could put some silly 1/5 blocker bet out OTR if you think he's going to check a ten back. Title: Re: Nut low trips Post by: discomonkey on August 27, 2012, 03:14:56 AM im liking call call, tough for him to have too many 3s, we will chops with a decent amount of those otr, he could be semi bluffing a draw, could be steaming... call/sighcall seems the order of the day.
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