Title: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: cambridgealex on August 20, 2012, 04:10:33 AM PokerStars Hand #84809930408: Tournament #598693380, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2012/08/16 12:19:15 CT [2012/08/16 13:19:15 ET]
Table '598693380 21' 9-max Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: Mavericci (2940 in chips) Seat 2: JanT_Ni (2990 in chips) Seat 3: specht1988 (3030 in chips) Seat 4: Michlveit (2655 in chips) Seat 5: theguzzler (2920 in chips) Seat 6: IamMoved (3010 in chips) Seat 7: 20alex430 (3375 in chips) Seat 8: mcnallyville (3090 in chips) Seat 9: Bumbulbee_G (3000 in chips) IamMoved: posts small blind 10 20alex430: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to 20alex430 [9s 9c] mcnallyville: folds Bumbulbee_G: folds Mavericci: raises 40 to 60 JanT_Ni: folds specht1988: folds Michlveit: folds theguzzler: folds IamMoved: folds 20alex430: calls 40 *** FLOP *** [Tc 9d 5h] 20alex430: checks Mavericci: bets 80 20alex430: raises 120 to 200 Mavericci: calls 120 *** TURN *** [Tc 9d 5h] [Qh] 20alex430: bets 340 Mavericci: calls 340 *** RIVER *** [Tc 9d 5h Qh] [3h] 20alex430: bets 610 Mavericci: raises 1730 to 2340 and is all-in ? Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: TL900 on August 20, 2012, 04:29:57 AM Feels like a fold, any info on villian would be helpful :)
Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: silverslick on August 20, 2012, 05:14:22 AM I would have c|r more on the flop. The way he has played it I think a flush and k j are unlikely. I would put him on a set or an overpair. At the level I play $15 comps I would likely call without any specific reads? We lose to QQ and TT but beat 55 KK AA which has more combos out there.
Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: cambridgealex on August 20, 2012, 05:40:28 AM See what you're saying but really don't think he ever shoves AA or KK on the river unless to turn it into a bluff, he has 55 sometimes, but may 3b the flop with that. Other than that, beat QT which I think he just flats me on the river with.
Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: TL900 on August 20, 2012, 05:58:31 AM He has alot of flush combos imo. This hand is alot more interesting if the flop is Th 9d C5 and he takes this line i think as there is a ton of combos he now cant have
Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: the rage on August 20, 2012, 11:08:49 AM I think that you have to try and ignore the fact that you have a flopped set, because, on this board, you are pretty much only beating a bluff.
I think that villian will show up with 6h 7h or similar often enough to make this a FOLD. Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: Junior Senior on August 20, 2012, 01:25:46 PM Sigh food unless you have specific villain info to know he does his with 55, qt or could turn JQ into a bluff. As played and against random you gotta click the fold button
Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: cambridgealex on August 20, 2012, 03:33:15 PM Villain has a super easy bluff shove if I'm folding 99 here though, means I'm folding more or less my entire range.
Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: TL900 on August 20, 2012, 03:40:18 PM True, i dont think your getting exploited all that often in a 50fo tho vs a random. Just think he has it
Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: pleno1 on August 20, 2012, 05:02:21 PM Vs random I'd c/r turn jam river as played fold now. They won't be looking to exploit you if they are bad and if they are good they are playing. 10+ tble so won't do anything pre antes
Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: cambridgealex on August 20, 2012, 05:21:17 PM Yeh I was pretty sure I was beat...so I called and was pleasantly surprised he had Ts 8s :P
Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: cambridgealex on August 20, 2012, 05:22:22 PM don't like c/raising the turn at all pads, he's checking back SO OFTEN imo.
Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: TL900 on August 20, 2012, 05:29:27 PM don't like c/raising the turn at all pads, he's checking back SO OFTEN imo. agree Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: pleno1 on August 20, 2012, 06:20:46 PM o bet small really turn to try to get him to take off/make sure we get lot vs his value hands.
Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: JustinSayne on August 20, 2012, 06:32:54 PM Very easy/standard fold imo
Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove Post by: SuuPRlim on August 21, 2012, 03:47:14 PM Th Xh 9h Xh, 7h 8h Kh Jh, Qh 8h (that makes a striaght i know but still) Jh 7h, 6h 7h are all pretty possible IMO
You're range is strong OTR but prolly shouldn't have many flushes (we don't block a single combo either) so I see what you're saying that your oppo has flushes and you have very few giving him a really good spot to bluff, I think if we need to get into super balancing ourselves here then our adjustments need to be on the flop (c/r more as a bluff with like Jh 7h) than to be just bet calling the river into a range that a ton of legit value combo's. This being said we dont need to do any of this in a 50f lol, just fold :) |