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Title: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: cambridgealex on August 20, 2012, 04:10:33 AM
PokerStars Hand #84809930408: Tournament #598693380, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2012/08/16 12:19:15 CT [2012/08/16 13:19:15 ET]
Table '598693380 21' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Mavericci (2940 in chips)
Seat 2: JanT_Ni (2990 in chips)
Seat 3: specht1988 (3030 in chips)
Seat 4: Michlveit (2655 in chips)
Seat 5: theguzzler (2920 in chips)
Seat 6: IamMoved (3010 in chips)
Seat 7: 20alex430 (3375 in chips)
Seat 8: mcnallyville (3090 in chips)
Seat 9: Bumbulbee_G (3000 in chips)
IamMoved: posts small blind 10
20alex430: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 20alex430 [9s 9c]
mcnallyville: folds
Bumbulbee_G: folds
Mavericci: raises 40 to 60
JanT_Ni: folds
specht1988: folds
Michlveit: folds
theguzzler: folds
IamMoved: folds
20alex430: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [Tc 9d 5h]
20alex430: checks
Mavericci: bets 80
20alex430: raises 120 to 200
Mavericci: calls 120
*** TURN *** [Tc 9d 5h] [Qh]
20alex430: bets 340
Mavericci: calls 340
*** RIVER *** [Tc 9d 5h Qh] [3h]
20alex430: bets 610
Mavericci: raises 1730 to 2340 and is all-in
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Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: TL900 on August 20, 2012, 04:29:57 AM
Feels like a fold, any info on villian would be helpful :)


Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: silverslick on August 20, 2012, 05:14:22 AM
I would have c|r more on the flop. The way he has played it I think a flush and k j are unlikely. I would put him on a set or an overpair. At the level I play $15 comps I would likely call without any specific reads? We lose to QQ and TT but beat 55 KK AA which has more combos out there.


Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: cambridgealex on August 20, 2012, 05:40:28 AM
See what you're saying but really don't think he ever shoves AA or KK on the river unless to turn it into a bluff, he has 55 sometimes, but may 3b the flop with that. Other than that, beat QT which I think he just flats me on the river with.


Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: TL900 on August 20, 2012, 05:58:31 AM
He has alot of flush combos imo. This hand is alot more interesting if the flop is  Th 9d C5 and he takes this line i think as there is a ton of combos he now cant have


Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: the rage on August 20, 2012, 11:08:49 AM
I think that you have to try and ignore the fact that you have a flopped set, because, on this board, you are pretty much only beating a bluff.
I think that villian will show up with  6h 7h or similar often enough to make this a FOLD.


Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: Junior Senior on August 20, 2012, 01:25:46 PM
Sigh food unless you have specific villain info to know he does his with 55, qt or could turn JQ into a bluff. As played and against random you gotta click the fold button


Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: cambridgealex on August 20, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
Villain has a super easy bluff shove if I'm folding 99 here though, means I'm folding more or less my entire range.


Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: TL900 on August 20, 2012, 03:40:18 PM
True, i dont think your getting exploited all that often in a 50fo tho vs a random. Just think he has it


Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: pleno1 on August 20, 2012, 05:02:21 PM
Vs random I'd c/r turn jam river as played fold now. They won't be looking to exploit you if they are bad and if they are good they are playing. 10+ tble so won't do anything pre antes


Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: cambridgealex on August 20, 2012, 05:21:17 PM
Yeh I was pretty sure I was beat...so I called and was pleasantly surprised he had Ts 8s :P


Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: cambridgealex on August 20, 2012, 05:22:22 PM
don't like c/raising the turn at all pads, he's checking back SO OFTEN imo.


Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: TL900 on August 20, 2012, 05:29:27 PM
don't like c/raising the turn at all pads, he's checking back SO OFTEN imo.

agree


Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: pleno1 on August 20, 2012, 06:20:46 PM
o bet small really turn to try to get him to take off/make sure we get lot vs his value hands.


Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: JustinSayne on August 20, 2012, 06:32:54 PM
Very easy/standard fold imo


Title: Re: Flopped set facing river shove
Post by: SuuPRlim on August 21, 2012, 03:47:14 PM
 Th Xh 9h Xh, 7h 8h Kh Jh, Qh 8h (that makes a striaght i know but still) Jh 7h, 6h 7h  are all pretty possible IMO

You're range is strong OTR but prolly shouldn't have many flushes (we don't block a single combo either) so I see what you're saying that your oppo has flushes and you have very few giving him a really good spot to bluff, I think if we need to get into super balancing ourselves here then our adjustments need to be on the flop (c/r more as a bluff with like Jh 7h) than to be just bet calling the river into a range that a ton of legit value combo's.

This being said we dont need to do any of this in a 50f lol, just fold :)