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Title: Folding versus French people? Post by: rbc_mike on August 24, 2012, 10:24:39 PM PokerStars Hand #85186029252: Tournament #602940604, €18+€2 EUR Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (500/1000) - 2012/08/24 22:13:36 WET [2012/08/24 17:13:36 ET]
Table '602940604 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: WSOPREE (35335 in chips) Seat 2: GRI03 (34117 in chips) Seat 3: 3xhélas (11770 in chips) Seat 5: SOOPFLY (49222 in chips) Seat 6: bbrose63 (6521 in chips) Seat 7: iciparis1 (10169 in chips) Seat 8: Nohy..ovina (39779 in chips) Seat 9: HERO (24416 in chips) WSOPREE: posts the ante 125 GRI03: posts the ante 125 3xhélas: posts the ante 125 SOOPFLY: posts the ante 125 bbrose63: posts the ante 125 iciparis1: posts the ante 125 Nohy..ovina: posts the ante 125 HERO: posts the ante 125 SOOPFLY: posts small blind 500 bbrose63: posts big blind 1000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to HERO [Ks Kd] iciparis1: folds Nohy..ovina: folds HERO: raises 1000 to 2000 WSOPREE: folds GRI03: folds 3xhélas: folds SOOPFLY: calls 1500 bbrose63: folds *** FLOP *** [Jc Qc Ah] SOOPFLY: checks HERO: bets 2335 SOOPFLY: calls 2335 *** TURN *** [Jc Qc Ah] [Th] SOOPFLY: checks HERO: bets 4338 SOOPFLY: calls 4338 *** RIVER *** [Jc Qc Ah Th] [Qs] SOOPFLY: bets 40424 and is all-in Hero? I can check back flop for sure, but I have the best hand a tonne, and don't wanna give away cheap cards to draws/lose value from a queen (this is .fr after all!) Also think I can make it 2.2x rather than min to help leverage. Thoughts and views please. Title: Re: Folding versus French people? Post by: rbolt2 on August 25, 2012, 11:55:15 AM Donk at the end looks super strong, split pot at best, seems pretty tough to call, at the time i probably say fuck it and call, probably need more info on him.
Title: Re: Folding versus French people? Post by: SuuPRlim on August 25, 2012, 01:14:59 PM does feel awfullly like you're going to be shown QJ here, nothing else really makes sense lol
but then again.... I guess it looks very much like your hand is K* more than a hand that can make a full house on the river so a savvy villain might be taking K* and trying to make you fold a K also? Not sure we can give someone we dont know credit for that + we do have half of the decks available kings and nothing blocking a FH so it's not looking too great really :P Title: Re: Folding versus French people? Post by: rfgqqabc on August 25, 2012, 01:29:41 PM Getting 2:1 and he is french. Its not a spot I'm a fan of, and really not sure if calling is correct, but i think he gets most 2pairs etc in on the flop. I just don't see how we can fold even though i really really dont like calling.
Title: Re: Folding versus French people? Post by: RED-DOG on August 25, 2012, 11:27:11 PM Folding verses French poodle. (http://blackmilkclothing.uservoice.com/assets/32884687/dogs_playing.jpg) Title: Re: Folding versus French people? Post by: skolsuper on August 25, 2012, 11:44:20 PM Fold. He might not really be French.
Title: Re: Folding versus French people? Post by: DMorgan on August 26, 2012, 07:05:43 AM Folding
I used to always call in spots like this. You get shown boats a lot. Title: Re: Folding versus French people? Post by: rbc_mike on August 26, 2012, 04:41:26 PM Thanks for all the replies.
I did indeed fold, think Dan you've pretty much said what I was thinking at the time. Can see some passively two pair just getting there, and as lildave said, we block no fh combos, and with two king's he's less likely to be turning a straight into a bluff. Cheers all :) Title: Re: Folding versus French people? Post by: discomonkey on August 27, 2012, 12:59:40 AM not sure about this being a fold tbh, we only have 24bb to start the hand, im sure he will be trying to get all non qj/qt boats and quads in pre, qj will more than likely get it in otf not wanting to lose value and that leaves qt as the only hand that beats us... +this is .fr + there is a missed fd and its not like he is overbetting the pot....
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