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Not a good start from the Mongrels

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qneLWoG2MY4&feature=youtu.beYouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qneLWoG2MY4

Looks like tote rigging to me.

Oldest trick in the book.

Not surprised they aren't paying.

This. ainec to anything else.

He should have taken the 25k and run very very quickly.

I hate it when the media run negative stories about gambling and has zero clue about the issues involved.

Whilst there is clearly more to this than meets the eye if you are a firm like 365 having a tilt at a market like Oz then how exactly do you not have measures in place to combat things like this.  It is the oldest trick in the book like Keith says but it is hardly like they can have a guy blocking the only phone box at the track in this day and age.  I find it pretty hard to believe they cant send money to the track in this day and age especially when they are taking $7k superfecta perms and changing the rules after the fact is absolutely filthy.

Pool rigging is against all firms rules i believe.

The only bad move they made was lowering their limits and backdating it.

Can you explain?

tote rigging: Inflated returns are achieved by investing money on unwanted horses on the course - which goes into the Tote pool - while sizeable investments are made away from the course on the desired animals. The 'away' money does not normally find its way into the Tote pool.

Oi you - don't forget the "Tips" Fred needs some NFL Correspondents.....

Invented by poker player Phil Peters.

In the 1960s all forecasts in bookmakers were paid at the oncourse tote dividend.

Phil noticed that at certain ggreyhound tracks, when it rained, outside traps were massively favoured.

So, he waited for the right conditions and then plunged on 5 and 6 reversed through the card at Hackney.

Then went to the track and had a fraction of the amount he'd staked betting 1,2 and 3 combinations.

Fair to say he cleaned up.

Wasn't long until bookmakers invented their own formula by multiplying the SPs of the first and second.

(Although this was exploitable too.. when a long odds on shot was running, the dividend for it to beat the second favourite was far too big)

God bless Phil.

I doubt I've ever seen him without a lappie either, tapping away doing his bets.  What a life he must have had.

I bumped into him somewhere recently, Vegas I think. Not changed a bit.


(http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o541/tikay2/PhilPeters.jpg)

Ah ok yeah obvious i guess

When I started at Blue Square, they used the same office as City Index.

There were 2 punters who whenever they wanted a bet, they would take it and move the whole market so City Index would try and be on the same side as these two guys.

One was Tony Bloom. The other was dear old Phil Peters.

That's how good he is. A legend in gambling.

He cashed in the WSOP Main Event again this year, too. He's 71.

surely backdating the t+c's wont go down to well in court?

if they sniff there is anychance of losing the licence over this surely they will pay out sharpish

No wonder the guy was fixing the Tote returns. It helps when you know 2 of the 6 cannot win.

A CASE involving allegations corporate bookmaker Bet365 refused to pay Darwin punter Steve Brunker $70,000 he claimed to have won on an Ipswich greyhound race last month has taken a sharp twist, with Racing Queensland stewards investigating the race in question.

Mr Brunker, who said he had outlaid $4992 on the July 27 race, featured on Channel 7's Today Tonight last week claiming Bet365 had failed to honour a winning First4 bet, which requires punters to select the first four greyhounds across the line in correct finishing order.

Mr Brunker claims he had invested five units on the successful combination, which returned a dividend of $14,632.60, meaning he would be entitled to a payout of $73,163.

During the race two greyhounds - the $2.50 favourite Finished Forcer and $11 chance Octane Moment - refused to chase the lure, which effectively ruled both out of contention.

This month, Mr Brunker told The Northern Territory News: "It was the biggest bet I'd ever laid. I'd just got a tax return and thought I'd have a good bet. I was lucky. I thought I had fluked a windfall."

Instead, Mr Brunker claims Bet365 closed his account and has so far refused to pay the full amount.

Following heavy criticism on racing forums, Bet365, one of the world's biggest betting companies who have only been active in Australia for a short time, released a statement relating to the matter.

"Following a steward's inquiry immediately following the race, two dogs in the race in question, including the favourite, were subsequently suspended for 28 days for 'failing to pursue' and Racing Queensland are conducting an integrity inquiry into the race," the statement read.

RQ chief steward Wade Birch confirmed there is an investigation into the race, with a key element being

the dogs which "failed to pursue", which are trained by Jonathan Daniel (Finished Forcer) and Andrew Wilkinson (Octane Moment).

"Our investigations with Greyhound Racing New South Wales lead us to believe both of those greyhounds are kennelled at the registered property of Matthew Brunker," Mr Birch said.

Stewards are investigating whether Matthew Brunker and Steve Brunker are related.

Darwin-based Steve Brunker failed to return calls from The Courier-Mail yesterday.

The Northern Territory Racing Commission (which licenses Bet365 in Australia) is also conducting inquiries.

Bet365 have said they do not know when the inquiries will be completed and pending the outcome, it will be unable to comment further.

Wow, what a twist!

Thieving bloody punters.....

It amazes me how stupid these guys are. Offered $25k and never took it and instead bought publicity down on himself and was left open to scrutiny. Reminds me of those east Europeans that used camera phones to check the speed of the wheel and the speed of the ball make £100k then the next night try to go back to the casino and take em for a cool milly. :(