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I'd like to know how to calculate a players EV in a tournament at any given time, given stack size, total chips in play, players left and prizepool/structure.

Can anyone point me to a formula/program that can do this. Assume it's not possible to just use an ICM calculator for this but could easily be wrong.

I would suggest you may have to factor in ability as a fairly significant factor ;)

Not to mention multiple other nuances...

Yes obviously!

That's what ICM is. It's an attempt to work out how much every stack is worth.

ICM doesnt calculate a specific players EV though.

yes but I don't think that can be done with like 100players left / before the bubble etc. Or if I can I don't know how it's done- hence the thread!

Yeah it does.
Yes it can, you just need every stack and every payout.

Why? So hard for no real informational gain.

Next business venture doing a Sorel?

It's worth noting that the M in ICM stands for model. The ICM method is an attempt to provide an answer to the question "how much is this stack worth", but it has defects.

Cliffs?!

I imagine he means multiaccount, dump chips from one account to another to increase total equity in tournament.

He took over an account near the end of a tournament, don't know if he paid ICM for it.  It was back in the day when the rules weren't clear.

Ha no nothing like that!

Thinking about whether there'd be a market in selling %ages in people who've made day two/three of live events. E.g. Zimbler makes day 2 with a big stack, I estimate his EV in my opinion using all the information and tools available, set a minimum price and sell up to x% in him, and have to pay out x% of his cash if anyone buys. People could bid for the %ages too.

Think lots of people would like to have sweats in people in big events who haven't got %ages can buy in their mates, heroes, comedy characters etc.

Would obviously limit my exposure each time to quite small amounts, perhaps only selling a few % for each event as it's obviously high variance, and the minimum prices would reflect this too so it could be a nice little idea. No costs to run or set-up either and if no-ones interested it doesn't cost a penny. Thoughts?

Rastafish price in lvl1 of a dtd500?

ICM extended to bottom pay out to players left

Cant take that, sorry. Not enough money

No it wasn't.

"I estimate his EV in my opinion using all the information and tools available, set a minimum price and sell up to x% in him, and have to pay out x% of his cash if anyone buys"

In my opinion any purchase anyone makes against an individual as a counterparty in a scheme like this is undoubtedly a poor investment due to not receiving a premium for credit risk.   It seems doubtful that someone can be adequately capitalised to short people in big ticket big field events?

This is a general point, and not aimed at you individually Alex.