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Pretty much no reads on villian. All I know is hes 4 tabling zoom and playing pretty average. He hasn't done anything to stand out.

Villian is playing 21-19 standard tag yada yada im not sure how relevant stats can be in this spot.

He should view me as a 19-16 7% 3bet. Generally in line pre but pretty aggro post.

What is the best option facing a flop check raise here? We both rep pretty narrow if we start piling more money in.

I personally think its best for our perceived range to 3bet flop. As if we flat flop our range looks a lot like Kx bluff catchers.

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looks like villain is probs c/r nearly his whole range here
why are you betting the flop? are you looking take the pot down now?
You dont really want to be 3bin with a mediocre hand here otf, just seems like overplay
facing a check raise here i'd fold. The only card that makes you comfortable is a queen.
Don't just c bet because villain checks to you, you must know why you are c bettin

Cbet is obviously fine. I am not sure that 3betting the flop is the best way to rep something decent though, since it reps a very, very narrow range (although of course a very strong range too). On the other hand, floating the c/r reps a much wider range than 3betting. For example you then have all Kx hands in your perceived range - and there are a TON of these. Given the backdoor FD (which means there are an additional 9 turn cards that you can double float) I like calling the c/r much more than 3betting.

If villain checks a blank turn after we flat then obviously we can bet to pick up the pot. However, another line that works well versus regs who are trying to hand read is to check behind on the turn, and then bet the river. We are manipulating our perceived range by taking this line, since it now looks like we have a hand with showdown value that has pot controlled the turn and is now betting for thin value on the river (we always have something like KQ in villain's eyes).

You can't hit a backdoor flush by folding. I see what you mean with 3b but we could get into a ridiculous Pads 5b jam the flop thing here, which seems kind of silly when we can peel the flop ip, with 4 nut outs, an over and backdoors.

Would we cram playing ~150 bigs?

I like a peel here.

I think call>>>>>>3bet. Don't think I'd have a flop 3betting range in this spot, just for all the reasons Honeybadger listed