Title: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: Skippy on September 13, 2012, 11:12:21 PM Bit of in tourney PHA this. I'm playing the £50 +2r at DTD. I've got about 40k. Julian Thew is on my left. Blind on blind- I've got A7o in the small blind. 300/600/50. Folded to me, I raise to 1500. Thew reraises to 4000 out of 22k-ish in the big. a) What should I do? b) How do I think about what I should do?
Don't worry, I've played the hand now, it's not that urgent :-) Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: Rupert on September 13, 2012, 11:20:46 PM fold
Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: Ricardov83 on September 13, 2012, 11:22:38 PM Just fold now I feel.
Thew is decent apparently and playing this post is going to be horrendous. I'd maybe even be tempted to open fold v Julian as he'll just put you in a coffin so often on all sorts of textures post flop. Out of position v a competent madman has the makings of a fairly unpleasant scenario. Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: rfgqqabc on September 13, 2012, 11:31:54 PM Wouldnt be in my 4bet jam range as a bluff but wouldnt open fold either
Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: titaniumbean on September 13, 2012, 11:37:46 PM Fold and show him the ace with a bit of panache, then shake your head at him in disgust whilst he mucks.
if he shows you a bluff, slowly shake your fist at him saying 'damn aggro kids' Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: Karabiner on September 13, 2012, 11:39:43 PM Easy shove now for me as he'll no doubt hit the flop if you give him the opportunity. ;)
Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: TL900 on September 13, 2012, 11:43:02 PM I'd maybe even be tempted to open fold v Julian but we have an ace and a seven? fold now. Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: Pugwashed on September 13, 2012, 11:54:26 PM My only experience playing with him ended with him 6bet jamming 120bb with QTo from the hijack vs muckthenuts in the small blind with pretty much no history in the 500 at DTD. This makes me less inclined to fold but I still probably do
Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: pleno1 on September 14, 2012, 12:03:22 AM I actually think he has a lot more bluffs than value hands on this spot and would probably not adjust to balancing to 3b to induce with 88/99/aj etc this is fine of course too and Julian is a boss. There's not a huge deal we can do though lol cbet 4b fold with stacks and a little deep to jan here especially as we can show a huge profit from playin against te other 7 fishcakes. (Jason/Adam) DUCWIDT? I prob jam here around 15pc
And never call Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: cambridgealex on September 14, 2012, 01:13:35 AM Damn dem pesky kidz raising your raises.
Fold. Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: rfgqqabc on September 14, 2012, 02:15:38 AM I actually think he has a lot more bluffs than value hands on this spot and would probably not adjust to balancing to 3b to induce with 88/99/aj etc this is fine of course too and Julian is a boss. There's not a huge deal we can do though lol cbet 4b fold with stacks and a little deep to jan here especially as we can show a huge profit from playin against te other 7 fishcakes. (Jason/Adam) DUCWIDT? I prob jam here around 15pc And never call If you had no history you could lol call top 3, but presume he recognises Skippy. Like the fishcake usage. Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: BulldozerD on September 14, 2012, 07:31:11 AM Foooold
Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: AlexMartin on September 14, 2012, 09:15:13 AM call, checkjam every flop instantly.
Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: placewise on September 14, 2012, 11:42:06 AM Anyone like to limp, 3 bet here?
Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: youthnkzR on September 14, 2012, 12:10:14 PM Anyone like to limp, 3 bet here? no. in his eye... dare you! haha Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: Young_gun on September 14, 2012, 12:24:57 PM Trippy do you have any history? if none with Thew i would fold, but if you have had a couple of relevant hands it could be a shove :)
Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: Pugwashed on September 14, 2012, 01:58:00 PM Trippy do you have any history? if none with Thew i would fold, but if you have had a couple of relevant hands it could be a shove :) If anything I think jamming might be better without history vs him. I'm sure he's capable of adjusting and 3bet/calling a lot more hands with some history that without any history he may just flat and without history I imagine he's more polarised and bluff heavy Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: Skippy on September 14, 2012, 02:40:27 PM Actually he did say afterwards that I was always trying to nick his blind.
He was playing exceedingly tight though (although maybe he was loosening up as the blinds increase?)- I don't think I saw him ever get to showdown with less than a top 10% hand. Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: JK on September 14, 2012, 02:58:01 PM From the limited amount Iv played with Julian, he isnt that aggro 100% of the time. When he is though hes a headcase lol.
Just fold now, as someone said earlier, he puts you in a coffin post. Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: scotty77 on September 14, 2012, 05:07:11 PM Easy fold. Not cos Julian is some kind of super nit but in this tournie so many softer spots at the table it's just not worth it.
Would also imagine he is gonna be tighter than usual tho if it was one of the Sky tournie side events with tonnes of Sky players around. Don't think he will spew off quite so often in a situation like this. Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: Skippy on September 14, 2012, 06:13:42 PM Just fold now, as someone said earlier, he puts you in a coffin post. Calling wasn't on the menu for me, it was jam or fold. Results, for what it's worth was I shipped it, he called with A6o and I held and won the tournament. If I give him say 16k instead, any different answers? Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: cambridgealex on September 14, 2012, 06:34:12 PM Oh I thought he had you covered, so its like 35bbs effective? Can't blame you for jamming, but I'd fold vs Julian most of the time depending on how he'd been playing.
Surprised at the results. Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: smashedagain on September 14, 2012, 07:03:06 PM I actually think he has a lot more bluffs than value hands on this spot and would probably not adjust to balancing to 3b to induce with 88/99/aj etc this is fine of course too and Julian is a boss. There's not a huge deal we can do though lol cbet 4b fold with stacks and a little deep to jan here especially as we can show a huge profit from playin against te other 7 fishcakes. (Jason/Adam) DUCWIDT? I prob jam here around 15pc :)And never call Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: George2Loose on September 14, 2012, 07:12:02 PM Oh I thought he had you covered, so its like 35bbs effective? Can't blame you for jamming, but I'd fold vs Julian most of the time depending on how he'd been playing. Surprised at the results. Of this hand or that skippy shipped it? Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: cambridgealex on September 14, 2012, 10:05:21 PM That was the quip George, keep up.
Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: kinboshi on September 14, 2012, 10:06:40 PM Oh I thought he had you covered, so its like 35bbs effective? Can't blame you for jamming, but I'd fold vs Julian most of the time depending on how he'd been playing. Surprised at the results. Of this hand or that skippy shipped it? That Julian didn't get there, and skippy shipped it (presumably). :D Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: tight4better on September 15, 2012, 10:30:48 AM Shipped the lot for eighteen fiddy.
EDIT: 2p worth, obv raising bvb, when he 3bets it's very meh, I'm probably airing towards a fold espec vs julian. but I'm a nit/fish so. ;flushy; Also surprised at results, wpwp though. Title: Re: You vs Thew, what do? Post by: Young_gun on September 15, 2012, 12:16:56 PM Brag post! *Delete* *Delete* zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Wp skippy :)up |