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PokerStars Hand #86337456292: Tournament #614707183, $40+$4 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (125/250) - 2012/09/18 0:27:02 WET [2012/09/17 19:27:02 ET]
Table '614707183 98' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: thagrinda444 (5214 in chips)
Seat 2: AlwaysGoBig9 (7754 in chips)
Seat 3: luckyno75 (3288 in chips)
Seat 4: Milkos61 (2965 in chips)
Seat 5: jp4est (2070 in chips)
Seat 6: MRBRAINWASHR (6869 in chips)
Seat 7: MillWall1723 (3000 in chips)
Seat 8: AlcateL00 (9724 in chips)
Seat 9: pipo4 (6029 in chips)
thagrinda444: posts the ante 30
AlwaysGoBig9: posts the ante 30
luckyno75: posts the ante 30
Milkos61: posts the ante 30
jp4est: posts the ante 30
MRBRAINWASHR: posts the ante 30
MillWall1723: posts the ante 30
AlcateL00: posts the ante 30
pipo4: posts the ante 30
thagrinda444: posts small blind 125
AlwaysGoBig9: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AlcateL00 [Ah Qh]
luckyno75: folds
Milkos61: folds
jp4est: folds
MRBRAINWASHR: raises 375 to 625
MillWall1723: folds
AlcateL00: raises 875 to 1500
pipo4: folds
thagrinda444: folds
AlwaysGoBig9: raises 6224 to 7724 and is all-in
MRBRAINWASHR: folds
AlcateL00: folds
Uncalled bet (6224) returned to AlwaysGoBig9
AlwaysGoBig9 collected 4020 from pot
AlwaysGoBig9: doesn't show hand


a)I 3 bet to call the shove from the original raiser, as the shover was tanking I decided that i should probably fold to his shove. Then when he shoved I noticed I was getting 1.6-1, so I paused for thought and then figured if his shoving range is ak aqs + and TT+ its still a fold. However obviously if his range is much wider at all it makes this a call and I have no information to guess his shoving range here, especially if I am ever ahead (ie shoving hands i dominate etc). Does anyone else agree its a fold or any other thoughts??

b)Also considering I am planning to call an all i should probably make it 1398 or so instead of 1500 as I guess I am not trying to discourage reshoves etc... Do we agree with this too?

looks good to me, kinda close though

pretty much agree with this, id hate my life and fold i think but i wouldnt be suprised if someone ran some numbers and proved that it was a call

Pokerstrategyequilab, you already gave him a range right? There's not really a question now, pot odds/equilab

I was with Keylek when he played this hand. I tried 2 different ranges, one with the 38% required and one with 35%. However, we were unsure what hands to include exactly.


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Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    40.140%     31.82%    08.32%          28879421      7548911.00   { AhQh }
Hand 1:    59.860%     51.54%    08.32%          46774869      7548911.00   { 99+, AQs+, AdJd, AsJs, AQo+ }



   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    35.565%     31.40%    04.16%          20970441      2779996.50   { AhQh }
Hand 1:    64.435%     60.27%    04.16%          40249422      2779996.50   { TT+, AQs+, AKo }



   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    38.119%     29.83%    08.29%          24006170      6671368.00   { AhQh }
Hand 1:    61.881%     53.59%    08.29%          43129382      6671368.00   { TT+, 9c9h, 9c9s, 9d9s, AQs+, AKo, AcQd, AcQs, AdQc, AsQc, AsQd }


These are the ranges we used, seems kinda close, half combos of 99 and AQ there.

Is it wider/tighter?

^ bottom one seems closest to his range imo

Cold 4 by person IP? (if im reading correctly, tired) , i think its a sigh fold