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Title: Tough flop spot with Aces Post by: MC on September 18, 2012, 10:50:34 AM I have late regged the Hot $109, and this is my first hand. Both villains are unknowns.
What is our plan? PokerStars Hand #86152822272: Tournament #610988162, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (40/80) - 2012/09/14 8:02:52 WET [2012/09/14 3:02:52 ET] Table '610988162 16' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: Khelsurion (4560 in chips) Seat 2: epitomised (3000 in chips) Seat 3: jenpe05 (3925 in chips) Seat 4: merzavets65 (4729 in chips) Seat 5: Sg Shark121 (2325 in chips) Seat 6: olimach (2790 in chips) Seat 7: mark1312 (7840 in chips) Seat 8: flanders9 (2625 in chips) Seat 9: shawry5 (2205 in chips) merzavets65: posts small blind 40 Sg Shark121: posts big blind 80 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to epitomised [Ac Ad] olimach: folds mark1312: raises 120 to 200 flanders9: calls 200 shawry5: folds Khelsurion: folds epitomised: raises 320 to 520 jenpe05: folds merzavets65: folds Sg Shark121: folds mark1312: calls 320 flanders9: calls 320 *** FLOP *** [8c 9d 7c] mark1312: checks flanders9: checks epitomised: Title: Re: Tough flop spot with Aces Post by: muckthenuts on September 18, 2012, 01:37:43 PM More pre
Mostly check to keep the pot small or sometimes bet/fold flop. If you get raised on this flop if you're not crushed already they have at least a ton of equity. Title: Re: Tough flop spot with Aces Post by: discomonkey on September 19, 2012, 11:00:42 PM 600ish pre with the caller. we have 2:1 stack pot ratio so i think just bet/get it in vs one guy and bet fold vs both
Title: Re: Tough flop spot with Aces Post by: pleno1 on September 19, 2012, 11:02:15 PM Bet calling seems really bad right? Can't we just c/f it's realllly bad board even if he bluffs with kq, jk etc he still has equity and vs his value range we are dead
Title: Re: Tough flop spot with Aces Post by: discomonkey on September 20, 2012, 12:54:45 AM we cant c/f we are in position...
there is 1500 in there, we had 3k(now 2500) to start the hand and flanders had 2600...(now 2100) we have 2 aces and you think we dont have the best hand that much?? Title: Re: Tough flop spot with Aces Post by: corkeye on September 21, 2012, 07:46:47 AM Checking back flop all day long here.
Barrelling this flop leads to one opponent check raising you so often with a huge chunk of his range. Then what? Puts u in a gross spot and there's plenty of cards on turn ur gonna hate and very few ur going to be happy with apart from abs blanks Title: Re: Tough flop spot with Aces Post by: Pugwashed on September 22, 2012, 02:49:08 PM 600ish pre with the caller. we have 2:1 stack pot ratio so i think just bet/get it in vs one guy and bet fold vs both I think this seems best. Vs just 1 one I think we have to get in AA with this SPR Title: Re: Tough flop spot with Aces Post by: discomonkey on September 23, 2012, 12:32:09 AM Checking back flop all day long here. Barrelling this flop leads to one opponent check raising you so often with a huge chunk of his range. Then what? Puts u in a gross spot and there's plenty of cards on turn ur gonna hate and very few ur going to be happy with apart from abs blanks we arent going to have multiple decisions to make here, vs one guy we can bet/get it in, vs 2 people we can bet/fold, if we get c/c which i feel will be pretty rare we can shove on safe turns and reevaluate on the dangerous ones. Title: Re: Tough flop spot with Aces Post by: MC on September 26, 2012, 11:36:23 AM Yeah agree I should make it ~650 pre. I think I panic-raised with my timebank running down as sometimes happens.
Okay so we check the flop, are we okay with the rest? PokerStars Hand #86152822272: Tournament #610988162, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (40/80) - 2012/09/14 8:02:52 WET [2012/09/14 3:02:52 ET] Table '610988162 16' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: Khelsurion (4560 in chips) Seat 2: epitomised (3000 in chips) Seat 3: jenpe05 (3925 in chips) Seat 4: merzavets65 (4729 in chips) Seat 5: Sg Shark121 (2325 in chips) Seat 6: olimach (2790 in chips) Seat 7: mark1312 (7840 in chips) Seat 8: flanders9 (2625 in chips) Seat 9: shawry5 (2205 in chips) merzavets65: posts small blind 40 Sg Shark121: posts big blind 80 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to epitomised [Ac Ad] olimach: folds mark1312: raises 120 to 200 flanders9: calls 200 shawry5: folds Khelsurion: folds epitomised: raises 320 to 520 jenpe05: folds merzavets65: folds Sg Shark121: folds mark1312: calls 320 flanders9: calls 320 *** FLOP *** [8c 9d 7c] mark1312: checks flanders9: checks epitomised: checks *** TURN *** [8c 9d 7c] [5s] mark1312: bets 480 flanders9: folds epitomised: calls 480 *** RIVER *** [8c 9d 7c 5s] [5d] mark1312: bets 6840 and is all-in epitomised: calls 2000 and is all-in Title: Re: Tough flop spot with Aces Post by: skolsuper on September 26, 2012, 12:13:40 PM Agree with Karl itt, except that I think 520 sizing is fine, disappointed to hear it was a misclick.
Title: Re: Tough flop spot with Aces Post by: SuuPRlim on September 26, 2012, 12:46:07 PM turn is really tilting, FOLD? IDK lol, I agree with the dissscccccccooo r.e the flop though.
Title: Re: Tough flop spot with Aces Post by: MC on September 26, 2012, 01:04:24 PM Agree with Karl itt, except that I think 520 sizing is fine, disappointed to hear it was a misclick. Fine or optimal? Maybe 580-620 ftw? Title: Re: Tough flop spot with Aces Post by: AlexMartin on September 26, 2012, 03:00:03 PM how is sizing pre bad? looks fine. Get 1/6th of stack in pre ip w AA, yummy. B/c now, fk them in 2012 see some lunacy/extreme optimism in these spots
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