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Title: $11 MTT on Stars post flop person first to acts shoves
Post by: Young_gun on September 21, 2012, 09:28:35 PM
No reads, this is standard fold yes? Feels dirty folding here but obviously with no history its probably a simple fold.

I have played very tight, no hands with villain. He is from UK if that makes a diff

PokerStars Hand #86522206884: Tournament #617010585, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (30/60) - 2012/09/21 21:19:36 WET [2012/09/21 16:19:36 ET]
Table '617010585 10' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: BartOOlomej (2575 in chips)
Seat 2: pino1234 (3370 in chips)
Seat 3: LuukFOD (7425 in chips)
Seat 4: plynarik11 (3425 in chips)
Seat 5: benf1 (3270 in chips)
Seat 6: goose202129 (2865 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: ziki88 (3195 in chips)
Seat 8: JohnBevan882 (3570 in chips)
Seat 9: flyinsquizz (2535 in chips)
benf1: posts small blind 30
goose202129: posts big blind 60
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JohnBevan882 [Kc Ks]
ziki88: folds
JohnBevan882: raises 90 to 150
goose202129 has returned
flyinsquizz: calls 150
BartOOlomej: folds
pino1234: folds
LuukFOD: calls 150
plynarik11: folds
benf1: folds
goose202129: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [3d 8c 6d]
goose202129: bets 2715 and is all-in
JohnBevan882: folds
flyinsquizz: folds
LuukFOD: folds
Uncalled bet (2715) returned to goose202129
goose202129 collected 630 from pot
goose202129: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 630 | Rake 0
Board [3d 8c 6d]
Seat 1: BartOOlomej folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: pino1234 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: LuukFOD folded on the Flop
Seat 4: plynarik11 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: benf1 (small blind) folded before Flop


Title: Re: $11 MTT on Stars post flop person first to acts shoves
Post by: OverTheBorder on September 21, 2012, 09:40:00 PM
I have been calling all these "insert politically correct term" style all in massive over bets out of interest recently! mainly as I playing low ball and I am interested in understanding them and will donk off a few $$$$ to gain insight.  I witnessed an open shove with 200 BB with AQo but a lot of time it tends to be bullets pre.  In this spot I think he has a draw you havent 3b/4b/5b so he has you on your full opening range which means if he has a set its a strange way of extracting value and should check/raise all day long.  He may also have top pair A kicker hoping you may spite call with AK.

I am never folding here, below $25, majors I may sigh fold probably villain dependant


Title: Re: $11 MTT on Stars post flop person first to acts shoves
Post by: Ironside on September 21, 2012, 09:53:49 PM
i am never folding here more hands you beat than hands that are beating you


Title: Re: $11 MTT on Stars post flop person first to acts shoves
Post by: MC on September 21, 2012, 10:17:36 PM
Quick sharkscope, perhaps if he's a marginal winner you can fold

Otherwise in an $11 just get it in and obv make a note whatever he ends up having.


Title: Re: $11 MTT on Stars post flop person first to acts shoves
Post by: Young_gun on September 21, 2012, 10:19:31 PM
i am never folding here more hands you beat than hands that are beating you

I wouldn't normally but seems dodgy + 2 more people behind which makes a bit of a difference. If he puts me on overpair which he prob does maybe he wants me to level myself into calling here

Again dunno why i fold but just the instinct i guess..


Title: Re: $11 MTT on Stars post flop person first to acts shoves
Post by: muckthenuts on September 22, 2012, 09:31:08 PM
Dude do you really think he open ships any hands that have you beat? I'd be thrilled to get my chips in here


Title: Re: $11 MTT on Stars post flop person first to acts shoves
Post by: discomonkey on September 23, 2012, 12:29:19 AM
why would he put you on an overpair in an $11 mtt opening from ep.... 1. he might not care what you have he just seens a draw or top pair and wants to win it now.... 2. its an 11 dollar mt, people just dont care half the time and could be shoving any gutshots/top pair/flush draw etc, if you have some sort of read that he is good and thinking you could fold, but vs 90% of $11 mtt players this is just a call always


Title: Re: $11 MTT on Stars post flop person first to acts shoves
Post by: Young_gun on September 23, 2012, 11:32:03 AM
why would he put you on an overpair in an $11 mtt opening from ep.... 1. he might not care what you have he just seens a draw or top pair and wants to win it now.... 2. its an 11 dollar mt, people just dont care half the time and could be shoving any gutshots/top pair/flush draw etc, if you have some sort of read that he is good and thinking you could fold, but vs 90% of $11 mtt players this is just a call always

Thanks, for the record i usually would call this like 99% of time but my instinct told me he had a set. Probably wrong but went with the gut:)


Title: Re: $11 MTT on Stars post flop person first to acts shoves
Post by: BulldozerD on September 23, 2012, 12:49:48 PM
Not folding


Title: Re: $11 MTT on Stars post flop person first to acts shoves
Post by: LB44 on September 23, 2012, 06:10:22 PM
Snap and double fist pump.


Title: Re: $11 MTT on Stars post flop person first to acts shoves
Post by: Ironside on September 23, 2012, 09:39:19 PM
Snap and double fist pump.

only dbl i use all 3 legs too