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Title: little quiz
Post by: pleno1 on September 22, 2012, 02:21:40 AM
for the following questions choose a or b.

1)

would you prefer to

a) raise sb when folded round with   Kd 7c
b) raise utg w/ Kh Jd

2)

would you prefer to

a) call a utg raise from co w/ 3d 3h
b) defend bb v sb w/ Aspades 2h

3)

would you prefer to

a) 5b jam btn v bb w/ Kh 2h
b) 4b/call utg v co w/ 9s 9h

4)


would you prefer to

a) defend bb v utg w/  Aspades Th
b) defend bb v btn w/  4s 5c

5)


would you prefer to

a) defend bb v co w/  3s 4s
b) flat sb v mp w/  Jd Qc

5)


would you prefer to

a) 4b fold  Ad Qh mp v btn
b) 3b fold 77 utg v utg+1


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: JustinSayne on September 22, 2012, 04:05:33 AM
Will post after some responses since me and pleno always take the spewy options :D


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: George2Loose on September 22, 2012, 04:13:51 AM
A lot of these questions are like, would you

a) prefer to eat shit out of a cup

or

b) eat shit out of a bowl

All of the plays seem pretty undesirable


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: JustinSayne on September 22, 2012, 04:21:34 AM
FWIW im doing a small finger curl opening K7 sb vs bb in most games


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: Amatay on September 22, 2012, 05:37:42 AM
A lot of these questions are like, would you

a) prefer to eat shit out of a cup

or

b) eat shit out of a bowl

All of the plays seem pretty undesirable

a


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: rfgqqabc on September 22, 2012, 05:59:55 AM
for the following questions choose a or b.

1)

would you prefer to

a) raise sb when folded round with   Kd 7c
b) raise utg w/ Kh Jd
A
2)

would you prefer to

a) call a utg raise from co w/ 3d 3h
b) defend bb v sb w/ Aspades 2h
A
3)

would you prefer to

a) 5b jam btn v bb w/ Kh 2h
b) 4b/call utg v co w/ 9s 9h
A
4)


would you prefer to

a) defend bb v utg w/  Aspades Th
b) defend bb v btn w/  4s 5c
A
5)


would you prefer to

a) defend bb v co w/  3s 4s
b) flat sb v mp w/  Jd Qc
B
5)


would you prefer to

a) 4b fold  Ad Qh mp v btn
b) 3b fold 77 utg v utg+1
wtf both horrible probs B seen as  it'll cost me less, worst qn out of the lot.

These are all super opponent and situation/stake dependent.


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: discomonkey on September 22, 2012, 05:37:51 PM
for the following questions choose a or b.

1)

would you prefer to

a) raise sb when folded round with   Kd 7c
b) raise utg w/ Kh Jd

2)

would you prefer to

a) call a utg raise from co w/ 3d 3h
b) defend bb v sb w/ Aspades 2h

3)

would you prefer to

a) 5b jam btn v bb w/ Kh 2h
b) 4b/call utg v co w/ 9s 9h

4)


would you prefer to

a) defend bb v utg w/  Aspades Th
b) defend bb v btn w/  4s 5c

5)


would you prefer to

a) defend bb v co w/  3s 4s
b) flat sb v mp w/  Jd Qc

5)


would you prefer to

a) 4b fold  Ad Qh mp v btn
b) 3b fold 77 utg v utg+1

1. a
2. b
3. depends.... but ill go a
4. a
5. b

though a lot are obv way villain dependant


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: smashedagain on September 22, 2012, 06:00:54 PM
If its an RSQ I probly win this


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: Waz1892 on September 22, 2012, 06:22:44 PM
Answers from a fish, who avoids posting in Hand Analysis to avoid ridcule! (even though I know its the only way to learn!)

level 1 thinking remember!

1 -  A) More likely to pick up the BB

2 - A) Good % of being ahead at this stage, and if you hit the 3..bingo.

3 - B), simply as the other option with a 4 bet id get the hint & 5betting with K2 is way out of my comfy zone

4 - A) - happy defending with AT

5) - A) - nice hand pre flop, that can hit lots.  Other option, by flatting, leaving BB to come along, and suddenly we are 3 handed oop,, with qhigh

6) - B) happy to lay down 77 at this point


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: Young_gun on September 22, 2012, 08:16:24 PM
1) A, unless 6 max then B
2)A
3)B
4)A
5)B

Does this mean im a massive fish :(


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: JustinSayne on September 23, 2012, 03:16:58 PM
1)

a. Raise sb with K7. A vast majority of the time we have a profitable open + flop cbet with a okish hand. Opening KJo utg feels really dirty.

2)

b. Defend A2 bvb. We cant get squeezed like the 33 situation. We have position + reduced price + beat his 40%+ opening range. Easy decision imo

3)

a) ainec. 4bet calling utg with 99 is going to be a huge leak. We can actually expect to turn a profit 5betting K2s bb vs btn. Not so much with 99 against a co vs utg 5b range

4)

This is the first tough one imo. I think option A is best only because if we start check raising flops we are going to get a shit tonne of credit in these positions and we can actually make a semi decent bluff catcher.

Not so much with 45o :D and no one folds in the blind wars so our fold equity postflop is crippled too.

5)

B. for the same reasons as the question above.

6)

a. Its probably close to the nut line vs most players anyway. I think people are super polarised in these positions and defending AQ is really meh. So why not use the best hand we fold, with sick blockers as a 4bet bluff.


PS. You cant count bro. two question 5's


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: Sulphur man on October 01, 2012, 02:55:40 AM
A lot of these questions are like, would you

a) prefer to eat shit out of a cup

or

b) eat shit out of a bowl

All of the plays seem pretty undesirable
Thats because you are a Jedi mate. I think this is actually quite good, well the 50% scandi/degen part of me does.


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: Sulphur man on October 01, 2012, 03:31:06 AM
1) B. I find my utg range is far tighter(Gap concept) than the hands I'm willing to open from the sml blind. Personally open allot at micros when its folded to me
even if I'm at risk of playing more hands oop and knowing that's the least profitable seat to play from. 6max I'm probably Happy playing both.

2) A. Defending with the  Aspades  2h can be difficult due to domination and lack of straight possibilities. I'm quite happy playing the  3d  3h though especially if i know the player is poor
postflop and likely to stack of with TPTK or Aces Kings. Seem to win some decent pots setmining against weak players when stacks are deep enough.

3) B. Actually checked my 4/5 bet range on HEM last week, wont say any more than the percentage of hands i 4/5bet with is without doubt exploitable, not at the stakes i play though
as i doubt meny of the villians are watching for such things. The nit in me says fold both although I'm flicking it in with the 99 v agrotard or say Ali bag of bollocks.

4) B. Starting to see what George means now, dirty. Would be happy to switch the hands round though. Going with B as i think the hand will be much harder to get into trouble with postflop.

5) B. Prefer to 3b/f the sevens, first off 3bet has cost me less and with the position of the players feel we are up against a tighter range here. 4b/f AQ is pretty gross as i would be far more happy
to not 4bet and play against the range the opponent stays in with there than 4bet and have to fold, that's burning money right?


And George would that be a small cup and a large bowl?
Pleno this was gay although i enjoyed it.


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: Sulphur man on October 01, 2012, 03:36:36 AM
Thought question 5 was optional so answered the one i liked.


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: PaintingByNumbers on October 02, 2012, 07:57:45 PM
a
b
a (bb vs but?)
a
a
a


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: Honeybadger on October 02, 2012, 11:51:31 PM
a
b
a (bb vs but?)
a
a
a


Whatever PaintingByNumbers says will likely be the right 'vacuum' answer (and these are vacuum questions after all). He is GOOOOOD at the GTO stuff!

However, most (all?) of these are so close that reads/dynamics/stats etc are so ridiculously important, and thus 'vacuum' GTO analysis is only of so much interest.

Also, I am sure you could be a big winning online player without ever doing any of these things! In fact, I suspect that pledging to not ever do any of these things might immediately increase the win rates of a large of majority of players (except for the A2 hand).


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: PaintingByNumbers on October 03, 2012, 11:33:30 AM
Well, it's not really GTO stuff, as only one hand (A2o in BB) seems standard to me.

I was just trying to choose the hand that would be more reasonable more often.
Adding a hand into our bluff range won't matter very much, adding a hand into our value range will.

Hoping that there is a follow up from the Quizmaster.


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: AlexMartin on October 03, 2012, 04:09:36 PM
option A in question 3......where can i make this play?



Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: Honeybadger on October 03, 2012, 04:16:24 PM
option A in question 3......where can i make this play?

It has to mean 5bet jamming from the BB right?


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: Sulphur man on October 03, 2012, 04:23:40 PM
Pot may have already been opened, so your first raise would be 3bet he 4bets you 5bet.


Title: Re: little quiz
Post by: Sulphur man on October 03, 2012, 04:25:15 PM
Assuming origanal raiser folds.