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Title: Tens on bubble in satellite
Post by: david3103 on October 03, 2012, 04:33:25 PM
Six left in the DTD £500 satellite - 5 seats on offer, zilch for 6th

Shove? Fold? Something else?

It's been a frustrating time lately with the real shorties getting in and getting there...



***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Boss)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, October 02, 10:03:04 ET 2012
Table DUSK 500 FINAL 1R 1A (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 2: Player2 ( 26847 ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 7, 3B: 2, AF: 4.3, Hands: 168
Seat 3: Player3 ( 110101 ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 18, 3B: 0, AF: 0.9, Hands: 51
Seat 4: Player4 ( 82603 ) - VPIP: 30, PFR: 12, 3B: 5, AF: 1.3, Hands: 180
Seat 5: Player5 ( 210893 ) - VPIP: 31, PFR: 19, 3B: 12, AF: 10.0, Hands: 42
Seat 7: Player7 ( 42718 ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 11, 3B: 6, AF: 1.5, Hands: 171
Seat 9: Hero ( 46838 ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 10, 3B: 7, AF: 1.7, Hands: 141
Player2 posts ante of [250].
Player3 posts ante of [250].
Player4 posts ante of [250].
Player5 posts ante of [250].
Player7 posts ante of [250].
Hero posts ante of [250].
Player3 posts small blind [1250].
Player4 posts big blind [2500].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [  Td Tc ]
Player5 folds
Player7 folds
Hero ....................?


Title: Re: Tens on bubble in satellite
Post by: dakky on October 03, 2012, 04:48:33 PM
got to be a pretty easy fold with seat 2 much shorter


Title: Re: Tens on bubble in satellite
Post by: kinboshi on October 03, 2012, 04:54:59 PM
Close between a shove and a fold for me, probably leaning towards the shove. Very player dependent.  The short-stack still has ten bigs, and there are two of you with around 20bbs.  The larger stacks in the blinds are going to be hurt if they call and lose the hand, so they're only going to be calling with a very narrow range (unless you know better).




Title: Re: Tens on bubble in satellite
Post by: Rod on October 05, 2012, 10:17:25 PM
Close between a shove and a fold for me, probably leaning towards the shove. Very player dependent.  The short-stack still has ten bigs, and there are two of you with around 20bbs.  The larger stacks in the blinds are going to be hurt if they call and lose the hand, so they're only going to be calling with a very narrow range (unless you know better).
This was my thinking as well. They should all have very narrow calling ranges of course so the shove is going to be +cEV and you don't yet have a seat locked up and still need to pressure the shorter stacks, not yet in a position to fold into the money.

However we do only get called by better I think and if called we are likely to be dominated (don't see any of them except maybe the shortstack) calling with AK here? I find this dynamic hard.


Title: Re: Tens on bubble in satellite
Post by: jgcblack on October 06, 2012, 12:06:47 AM
Dave,

Think its a relatively easy raise/ call vs the shorty and raise/fold vs rest.

I've been told we should be raise/folding all the way down to 15bb's and in this spot you can't do anything else.



Title: Re: Tens on bubble in satellite
Post by: rfgqqabc on October 06, 2012, 12:31:01 AM
Dave,

Think its a relatively easy raise/ call vs the shorty and raise/fold vs rest.

I've been told we should be raise/folding all the way down to 15bb's and in this spot you can't do anything else.



It really really sucks to go out. Would we open fold 77 by the way? Just think with the chance we get peeled


Title: Re: Tens on bubble in satellite
Post by: jgcblack on October 06, 2012, 12:41:46 AM
Dave,

Think its a relatively easy raise/ call vs the shorty and raise/fold vs rest.

I've been told we should be raise/folding all the way down to 15bb's and in this spot you can't do anything else.



It really really sucks to go out. Would we open fold 77 by the way? Just think with the chance we get peeled

I'd be raise folding 77-10's and raise calling JJ+, open folding <66.

If TL900 says its ok then I'm fine with it. :P


Title: Re: Tens on bubble in satellite
Post by: TL900 on October 06, 2012, 12:00:55 PM
people peel wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much on this stupid site to min r imo. Think I would fold just cuz people make too many mistakes on there especially in the satellites that you can just wait a little imo. would shove QQ+ prob. Im not entirely sure though. Fold AK for sure