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Title: 10c/25c PLO... Line Checks + River Decision
Post by: Derbylad on October 07, 2012, 10:09:39 PM
PokerStars Zoom Hand #87310243283:  Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2012/10/07 22:01:08 WET [2012/10/07 17:01:08 ET]
Table 'Thyestes' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: DEdgge ($26.90 in chips)
Seat 2: GHolden7 ($26.99 in chips)
Seat 3: RSG07 ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: HuckleRomyyy ($44.49 in chips)
Seat 5: clerKKie ($20.90 in chips)
Seat 6: zumytime ($69.55 in chips)
GHolden7: posts small blind $0.10
RSG07: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GHolden7 [4c Ac 2s 6c]
HuckleRomyyy: folds
clerKKie: raises $0.50 to $0.75
zumytime: calls $0.75
DEdgge: folds
GHolden7: calls $0.65
RSG07: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc 5c Jc]
GHolden7: checks
clerKKie: bets $1.19
zumytime: folds
GHolden7: raises $2.06 to $3.25
clerKKie: calls $2.06
*** TURN *** [Tc 5c Jc] [9d]
GHolden7: bets $4.50
clerKKie: calls $4.50
*** RIVER *** [Tc 5c Jc 9d] [5h]
GHolden7: ???


Title: Re: 10c/25c PLO... Line Checks + River Decision
Post by: pleno1 on October 07, 2012, 10:36:37 PM
Isn't it a fold pre?


Title: Re: 10c/25c PLO... Line Checks + River Decision
Post by: zerofive on October 08, 2012, 01:59:01 PM
Fold pre. Not even close. This is a terrible hand and you're playing three streets out of position.

As played, flop probably fine. Turn bigger as it's likely to hit him pretty hard, then jam river. Unlucky if he has it, but at these stakes and given you tendency to bare ace bluff and how many times that must have failed, I reckon you're likely to get paid off by worse flushes. Plus if we're a reg in these games, we become exploitable by checking here.

Even if I'm wrong with my line, this is an absolutely massive piece of evidence to suggest that playing in position in PLO is way more crucial than making premium hands. So, to reiterate: fold pre.


Title: Re: 10c/25c PLO... Line Checks + River Decision
Post by: Honeybadger on October 08, 2012, 06:21:25 PM
Nah... calling pre is ok. You can call a lot of suited Axxx hands from the blinds if the pot is going to be multiway. This one is even fairly connected, although the fact that it has three of a suit is a shame. Still, calling pre is fine. Folding also fine, there is not much in it especially given the blind structure. If BB is an aggro 3bettor then obv folding is deffo best.

River you can either bet/fold (small size probably) if you think he is a station with all flushes, or just check/fold but expect it to often go ch-ch and you win. If you are against an opponent at micro stakes that is good enough to turn a smaller flush into a bluff when the board pairs... well you've likely made a game selection mistake to begin with.

Edited to say: misread HH... thought there were two callers of the raise before it gets to you instead of just one. It's still not terrible to call though, but folding would be better. Doesn't matter too much either way really.


Title: Re: 10c/25c PLO... Line Checks + River Decision
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 09, 2012, 12:05:38 AM
Preflop, w/e imo, folding better than calling, not the worst call, easier to just get into the habbit of folding these hands imo.

I'd raise the flop a little bigger, people tend to station these raises off pretty irrespective of the sizing, speshly at lower stakes, you rarely get out and out floated on these textures, speshly at micro stakes. Also this means you could bet bigger on the turn and will hopefully have the PSR for a river jam.

Like the turn bet, might bet like EVER so slightly more, but being a lil picky (like $5 :D)

River I'd bet/fold at these stakes, If the J or T paired i'd be way more inclined to just c/f but i think you get hero'd by smaller flushes all the time here, I'd bet $8.50 or something like that, fold if he ships.

Vs a player I knew to be good I'd be checking 100% here, I'd stop bluffing with the naked Ac, i'd chk JJ and I'd check this hand.