Title: Price of Football Post by: Tal on October 18, 2012, 08:17:01 AM BBC has announced this morning the results of a survey of 10 leagues in England and Scotland (4 English divisions, 4 Scottish divisions, the Conference and the women's Super League). Perhaps, as expected, the prices are going up.
I've just paid £72.25 for Spurs v West Ham in November, which considering it's not even the most expensive seat (tho not far off) is a disgrace. When you add the cost of train tickets, food and a Telegraph+Buxton from WHSmith's, you don't get much change from £150. You wonder why clubs moan when the fans boo poor performances. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Tal on October 18, 2012, 08:19:06 AM In before someone says "you're an idiot for paying to watch spurs" or "support your local team" :)
Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: TightEnd on October 18, 2012, 08:52:50 AM "Millwall - Did not respond"
lol and yes, the whole thing is tremendously expensive for families. Pricing many out of live football Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: class on October 18, 2012, 08:54:34 AM If you pay on the day at Southend Utd, an adult has to fork out £22 to watch some dire hoofball.
Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Acidmouse on October 18, 2012, 09:25:56 AM well done to Leeds. Most expensive programme in the country.
Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Woodsey on October 18, 2012, 09:36:00 AM Jeeez, I would guess that more than a days wages for an average guy on the street.
Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Acidmouse on October 18, 2012, 09:36:12 AM well done to Leeds most expensive season ticket in the championship: £752
Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: TheChipPrince on October 18, 2012, 10:04:29 AM Do Spurs sell-out well in advance Tal?
How many clubs can you not 'get' a season ticket for without joining a waiting list these day? Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Tal on October 18, 2012, 10:16:53 AM Do Spurs sell-out well in advance Tal? How many clubs can you not 'get' a season ticket for without joining a waiting list these day? In short, yes. There is - I imagine like most clubs - a tiered membership scheme. The season tickets get first dibs, then the Bronze members like myself (who have paid £45 for ticket priority and a birthday card, essentially) have two weeks where we can buy tickets for ourselves and other bronze members. Then there is a day where Bronze members can buy guest tickets, which is shared with the lowest category members' chance to buy in advance (Lily white). Then it goes on general sale. Tickets are sold out for almost every home game all season, with the possible exception of midweek cup games. It's the same hassle whether it is v Man U at home or v Wigan at home; just massively different in price. Category A ticket is > £70. Category C ticket in the same seat (at a game you are more likely to see your team win in...) is £45. Generally, I go to watch us in the lower category games but will occasionally go for a game like Wham or Ars£nal, to say I've done it. New stadium won't lower the prices, of course. Even for the low category games (ones against weaker sides), the tickets will have almost entirely gone. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Acidmouse on October 18, 2012, 10:17:58 AM I think Footy in this country is at a real tipping point, no longer (for me anyway) can you just casually go watch a football game without having to think about the costs for you. Fans seem to be getting dissatisfied with pricing, players, clubs in general and less willing to accept the crap fans have had to take over the years. Until the wage cap is brought in and pricing of tickets for working class families is more a level that does not break the bank crowds will keep declining and the makeup of supporters attending the games will keep evolving away from the traditional ones we say 20 years ago (Roy Keane spoke about this famously I seem to recall).
Take away the Bates thing at Leeds, the cost of me going to see Leeds with any member of my family or children is a days wage. The cost to see the World and English Rugby league champions the Leeds Rhinos is roughly 3 days wages for the WHOLE season with my two kids included for next to nothing! No brainier for me, my guess is more and more football fans seek out other sports to get their fix as a cheaper alternative. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Karabiner on October 18, 2012, 10:25:35 AM If you pay on the day at Southend Utd, an adult has to fork out £22 to watch some dire hoofball. But you do get to see rastafish junior in action. I can't help but wonder what his goal-celebration might be like... Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: TightEnd on October 18, 2012, 10:34:32 AM You can get a season ticket at any time at almost any Non Premier League Side
and you might see... YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJQXS5Ed8gc Non League which I watch a lot these days, £10 at Level 5 for an adult, £4 under 16 Superb value for money Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: AndrewT on October 18, 2012, 10:35:40 AM Supply and demand, innit?
If it's too expensive, don't go. There are plenty of non-league teams you can go and watch for a few quid. (In after Tal) If Arsenal played in front of a half-empty stadium every week then is problem, but they don't. If 60,000 people want to pay ££££ to watch a load of foreigners trying to catch the eye of Man City or Barcelona then fair enough. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: TheChipPrince on October 18, 2012, 10:40:33 AM Didn't Dortmund kick off about having to pay 19 Euros for some away tickets in Germany recently?
Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: class on October 18, 2012, 10:43:33 AM If you pay on the day at Southend Utd, an adult has to fork out £22 to watch some dire hoofball. But you do get to see rastafish junior in action. I can't help but wonder what his goal-celebration might be like... Who is rastafish junior, may I ask? Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: TightEnd on October 18, 2012, 10:44:37 AM If you pay on the day at Southend Utd, an adult has to fork out £22 to watch some dire hoofball. But you do get to see rastafish junior in action. I can't help but wonder what his goal-celebration might be like... Who is rastafish junior, may I ask? Gavin Tomlin, see video above Now of Southend Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Doobs on October 18, 2012, 10:49:40 AM I think Footy in this country is at a real tipping point, no longer (for me anyway) can you just casually go watch a football game without having to think about the costs for you. Fans seem to be getting dissatisfied with pricing, players, clubs in general and less willing to accept the crap fans have had to take over the years. Until the wage cap is brought in and pricing of tickets for working class families is more a level that does not break the bank crowds will keep declining and the makeup of supporters attending the games will keep evolving away from the traditional ones we say 20 years ago (Roy Keane spoke about this famously I seem to recall). Bradford City £200 a season. Fiver for under 11s. Come over to the dark sideTake away the Bates thing at Leeds, the cost of me going to see Leeds with any member of my family or children is a days wage. The cost to see the World and English Rugby league champions the Leeds Rhinos is roughly 3 days wages for the WHOLE season with my two kids included for next to nothing! No brainier for me, my guess is more and more football fans seek out other sports to get their fix as a cheaper alternative. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Acidmouse on October 18, 2012, 10:53:41 AM I think Footy in this country is at a real tipping point, no longer (for me anyway) can you just casually go watch a football game without having to think about the costs for you. Fans seem to be getting dissatisfied with pricing, players, clubs in general and less willing to accept the crap fans have had to take over the years. Until the wage cap is brought in and pricing of tickets for working class families is more a level that does not break the bank crowds will keep declining and the makeup of supporters attending the games will keep evolving away from the traditional ones we say 20 years ago (Roy Keane spoke about this famously I seem to recall). Bradford City £200 a season. Fiver for under 11s. Come over to the dark sideTake away the Bates thing at Leeds, the cost of me going to see Leeds with any member of my family or children is a days wage. The cost to see the World and English Rugby league champions the Leeds Rhinos is roughly 3 days wages for the WHOLE season with my two kids included for next to nothing! No brainier for me, my guess is more and more football fans seek out other sports to get their fix as a cheaper alternative. I have been a few times since Parkinson took over, hes a good friend of my uncles so we get freebies :) lol.. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Royal Flush on October 18, 2012, 10:55:35 AM Maybe if ticket prices go up enough we can price out the thugs and be allowed to enjoy a drink whilst watching our national sport again?
Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: TightEnd on October 18, 2012, 10:56:55 AM Maybe if ticket prices go up enough we can price out the thugs and be allowed to enjoy a drink whilst watching our national sport again? pricing out families far more the thugs will always find a way to go. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Acidmouse on October 18, 2012, 10:57:11 AM Maybe if ticket prices go up enough we can price out the thugs and be allowed to enjoy a drink whilst watching our national sport again? are thugs poor? Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: class on October 18, 2012, 10:58:00 AM If you pay on the day at Southend Utd, an adult has to fork out £22 to watch some dire hoofball. But you do get to see rastafish junior in action. I can't help but wonder what his goal-celebration might be like... Who is rastafish junior, may I ask? Gavin Tomlin, see video above Now of Southend I thought that was the case, but did not want to assume! He is due a goal soon, it's definitely not through the want of trying from what I've seen of him at Roots Hall! Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Snowball on October 18, 2012, 11:02:13 AM It's no wonder the atmosphere at games in the Premiership are so poor, the working class man has been priced out of it.
Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: DungBeetle on October 18, 2012, 11:14:51 AM Meh - whoever said supply and demand is spot on. If the stadiums were half full then prices would plummet, mainly because Sky won't pay top dollar for games if there is no stadium atmosphere.
Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: TightEnd on October 18, 2012, 11:27:22 AM http://leesohproppingupthebar.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/is-football-socially-cleansing-the-game/
Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Doobs on October 18, 2012, 11:55:11 AM Ac
http://leesohproppingupthebar.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/is-football-socially-cleansing-the-game/ He lost me right at the start. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Woodsey on October 18, 2012, 12:01:37 PM http://leesohproppingupthebar.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/is-football-socially-cleansing-the-game/ Who cares as long as the chavs don't turn up at rugby or cricket ;whistle; Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: horseplayer on October 18, 2012, 12:24:11 PM yep the good old days
racism at a large percentage of games vile language and a decent chance of being beaten up if you happened to look at somebody in the wrong way Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Tal on October 18, 2012, 12:27:14 PM yep the good old days racism at a large percentage of games vile language and a decent chance of being beaten up if you happened to look at somebody in the wrong way ...but enough about the dressing room at Stamford Bridge... Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Sheriff Fatman on October 18, 2012, 12:37:38 PM On Saturday, I shall be heading down to The Valley with a group of mates for Charlton vs Barnsley which, due to a promotion for that game, is costing £5 per adult ticket. Add on the £28 return train fare from Leeds to London and it's still cheaper than the £36 that I refused to pay at Elland Road a couple of weeks ago.
I'm not the only one who made a similar decision - I think we'll take a bigger away support to Charlton than we did to Leeds, which would be ludicrous if equally priced. It just goes to show the impact of pricing and it's ironic that we've had consecutive games which are at the opposite extremes of the scale. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: kinboshi on October 18, 2012, 12:47:36 PM yep the good old days racism at a large percentage of games vile language and a decent chance of being beaten up if you happened to look at somebody in the wrong way ...but enough about the dressing room at Stamford Bridge... A++++ Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: AceHighSuited on October 18, 2012, 06:20:37 PM Maybe if ticket prices go up enough we can price out the thugs and be allowed to enjoy a drink whilst watching our national sport again? Most trouble happens away from the stadium though so the draconian rules on drinking should be lapsed. I remember when I was a kid it used to cost £5 to get in when accompanied by an adult. Now if I take the young ones to a game its in excess of a hundred quid for a day out. Football used to be for the working classes, now its for city tossers and the rich to get richer. I'd start banning people who say they are going to the "footy" or "soccer". I'd then like a time machine to go back in time and stick bullet in the head of Bosman. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Doobs on October 18, 2012, 06:29:50 PM Maybe if ticket prices go up enough we can price out the thugs and be allowed to enjoy a drink whilst watching our national sport again? Most trouble happens away from the stadium though so the draconian rules on drinking should be lapsed. I remember when I was a kid it used to cost £5 to get in when accompanied by an adult. Now if I take the young ones to a game its in excess of a hundred quid for a day out. Football used to be for the working classes, now its for city tossers and the rich to get richer. I'd start banning people who say they are going to the "footy" or "soccer". I'd then like a time machine to go back in time and stick bullet in the head of Bosman. It's only a game dude Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Toasty92 on October 18, 2012, 06:35:21 PM No wonder people aren't going to the game and wasting a fortune when they could just watch most of the games on sky!
Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: AceHighSuited on October 18, 2012, 08:13:58 PM No wonder people aren't going to the game and wasting a fortune when they could just watch most of the games on sky! I also think far too much football is shown on TV. the government should stand in and say enough is enough here. Also think that there has to be a redistribution of TV wealth. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: mondatoo on October 18, 2012, 08:33:12 PM I like the fact I can't drink during the game, gives me a chance to sober up before getting back on it.
Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Woodsey on October 18, 2012, 08:35:50 PM I like the fact I can't drink during the game, gives me a chance to sober up before getting back on it. Pussy, you're not going to be much good at your ashes all dayer next summer :P Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: aaron1867 on October 18, 2012, 09:58:51 PM Tal, you say you paid £72 for a ticket, but then say it's disgrace, so if it is, why pay it?
There are numerous things in which I think are a disgrace, but if I think they are, I don't buy from them, etc. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Woodsey on October 18, 2012, 10:04:07 PM Tal, you say you paid £72 for a ticket, but then say it's disgrace, so if it is, why pay it? There are numerous things in which I think are a disgrace, but if I think they are, I don't buy from them, etc. Standard market forces isn't it, no point getting riled by it. I had a similar rant about cricket tickets for the ashes next summer, but they sold pretty fast so you gotta pay up or shut up as annoying as that may be. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Tal on October 18, 2012, 10:27:47 PM Tal, you say you paid £72 for a ticket, but then say it's disgrace, so if it is, why pay it? There are numerous things in which I think are a disgrace, but if I think they are, I don't buy from them, etc. Standard market forces isn't it, no point getting riled by it. I had a similar rant about cricket tickets for the ashes next summer, but they sold pretty fast so you gotta pay up or shut up as annoying as that may be. Yup. This. I want to watch my team. It's a free weekend for me. It's a match I've not seen before. Three other mates are going I only get to see at Spurs games. I don't think getting royally irked at having to fork out £72 on entry alone compromises my position. Just really want to win now!! Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Karabiner on October 18, 2012, 10:47:18 PM Supply and demand, innit? If it's too expensive, don't go. There are plenty of non-league teams you can go and watch for a few quid. (In after Tal) If Arsenal played in front of a half-empty stadium every week then is problem, but they don't. If 60,000 people want to pay ££££ to watch a load of foreigners trying to catch the eye of Man City or Barcelona then fair enough. Oooh darling your claws are showing. I won't bother with a riposte as I was taught not to mock the afflicted. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Karabiner on October 18, 2012, 10:54:35 PM Tal, you say you paid £72 for a ticket, but then say it's disgrace, so if it is, why pay it? There are numerous things in which I think are a disgrace, but if I think they are, I don't buy from them, etc. Standard market forces isn't it, no point getting riled by it. I had a similar rant about cricket tickets for the ashes next summer, but they sold pretty fast so you gotta pay up or shut up as annoying as that may be. Yup. This. I want to watch my team. It's a free weekend for me. It's a match I've not seen before. Three other mates are going I only get to see at Spurs games. I don't think getting royally irked at having to fork out £72 on entry alone compromises my position. Just really want to win now!! Even I'll be rooting for your shower that week(a bit) v's lenny and the leg-breakers and their goblin of a manager. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: Tal on October 18, 2012, 11:06:03 PM Tal, you say you paid £72 for a ticket, but then say it's disgrace, so if it is, why pay it? There are numerous things in which I think are a disgrace, but if I think they are, I don't buy from them, etc. Standard market forces isn't it, no point getting riled by it. I had a similar rant about cricket tickets for the ashes next summer, but they sold pretty fast so you gotta pay up or shut up as annoying as that may be. Yup. This. I want to watch my team. It's a free weekend for me. It's a match I've not seen before. Three other mates are going I only get to see at Spurs games. I don't think getting royally irked at having to fork out £72 on entry alone compromises my position. Just really want to win now!! Even I'll be rooting for your shower that week(a bit) v's lenny and the leg-breakers and their goblin of a manager. That's the nicest thing you've said to me in a footballing context :) From the season ticket stats, our most expensive seat will be in the posh West Stand, which never has much of an atmosphere. I reckon it would be a couple of hundred less to get in with the hardcore fans in the Park Lane (South stand) or Shelf Side (East stand). Even still, it's a fair old wedge. One thing about our side is there aren't many dull games. It is probably better to pay £50 a fortnight to watch spurs than £35 a fortnight at Villa Park. Title: Re: Price of Football Post by: mondatoo on October 18, 2012, 11:28:15 PM I like the fact I can't drink during the game, gives me a chance to sober up before getting back on it. Pussy, you're not going to be much good at your ashes all dayer next summer :P An all dayer is no worries. Full test is going to be very, very messy though, wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. |