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£250 PLO Tournament at Luton

12k starting stack and a 30 min clock

Villain knows me for about 10 years and knows I'm an omaha fish (in before a holdem one as well) and he is a well known London/Luton circuit reg with the same name as a chain of Tennis and fitness clubs, the first hand he sat down and after an utg raise I find  Ac 9c Ad 9d and limp in the knowledge he will 3b which he obliges and we get it in but chop vs his  Aspades 6h Ahrt 3d and this is our only pot played together however he is raising or re-raising most hands IP vs the whole table.

Villain starts the hand with 12k and I cover with the blinds at 1/200

Action folds to me in the CO and I open to 600 with  Ac 2c Qd Kd and the villain 3b's quickly from the btn to 2100 which I call (this ok?)

I rarely play Omaha tournaments and only ss cash online if at all so my first question is, is Raise calling fine here or knowing that the villain is likely to 3b is limp call a better option?

Secondly are we going with this hand on most flops with an Ace on it? and should we be check raising or b/calling vs Villain specified?

Sorry if these are really basic Q's but probs play an Omaha tourney once every 2 years and find it very different to cash

I'd be 4 betting this vs villain as described

r/f pre. Also raise less, 450 is fine. Don't open limp. Ta

RAISE FOLD????? NATHAN WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT.

If I was given the option of folding this hand to a single raise or stabbing myself in the kidneys with a corkscrew I'd have a legitimate decision - having said this I'd defo fold and leave the kidneys in tact but it's not a snap decision by any means.

Pre-flop you can do really w/e you want with it, if he's re-raising very frequent then you have the nut hand to 4bet as you can really dominate a chunk of hands he'll call with. IDK how deep you are but not folding to a 5bet either. I'd prefer this option OOP as the hand will be much much easier to play vs a trickier opponent OOP with the initiative and shallower stacks.

If you chose to just flat then that's fine as well, slightly lower variance but you're going to get deprived of a lot of equity post-flop quite often which I always find quite tilting but in a tournament isn't the worst thing in the world.

As long as chips are going in the middle and not cards preflop you're not making any mistakes

Just to explain my thought process.

I just don't want to play a 3b pot oop in a live comp with an awkward spr. Re potting pre gets us into a nasty spot equity wise vs AAxx which is pretty much the only hands players pot with in this comp in my experience (sometimes KKxx, rarely though). The guy might have re raised a few times pre already yeah. But getting a rush of high equity cards happens. No need to level ourselves in this spot imo.

I mean look at the hand op has limped with in the first described hand! Just lol. These live PLO comps are ridic hilar. Plenty more +ev spots in a live comp than this particular scenario.

edit: if the  2c was a broadway club then I'd be a lot happier getting it in.

It's Lloydy.

Just get it in, fast as you can. 

I think OP would have had the decency to tell us if villain was as a rule small 3 betting, but full potting in this hand.

Potting as a 3b on all occasions

I'm flatting the 3B here too but am slightly unclear as to whether we are IP or OOP.

Sry OP amended

Still opening with a R and flatting the 3B.

Is he doing this like a maniac, ie with most hands, or just instead of over-calling when he does enter a pot?

If the former I would think about limping in - looking for one or both of the blinds to come along too.   I think this will make the hand easier to play post flop.

If the blinds do come along you could even consider a pot re-raise, just for the massive fold equity, but I agree with your later comment,  "Plenty more +ev spots in a live comp than this particular scenario", so I personally wouldn't.

As to your question about what to do on an A high flop.... If you have draws, I'd look to check-raise, if you don't you either c/f or c/r.  Sure he can have the remaining AA, but that's just PLO.

Also, to your point about going with it if you had the a broadway club rather than the  2c.  I don't agree with this - I think a broadway gives you more post-flop equity than pre-flop.

Well you're right that we cant get all in preflop vs a range that is always AA**, but the OP says he's been 3betting for pot quite frequently so we have to assume surely that at the point of the 3b his range is wider than Aces. The priority merit to 4betting is 1) he'll flat with dominated hands (KQT8 AKT5 etc) or even better he might fold KK** or another AK** hand.

If we're not sure he IS 3betting wide enough to make a profitable 4bet then we have to just call. Folding would be insane this is a premium hand.

Or did you meean 4bet/fold? There is a very strong case for 4b/folding here as well.

hero is 33% vs AAxx?

anyway if you (and ralph) call with a 2.5 spr what is your plan for a dry low flop, Qhi dry flop?

Queen high dry flop is a pretty easy check jam imo.

Thx for feedback and I posted as I dont play many PLO tournies as I said and as many have posted peeling the 3b is fine which I did and I CR AI the flop of  Ad 6c 7c

Not sure we are deep enough to 4b fold pre when the 3b is 2100 and eff stacks are 12k? if so how much would you be 4b to?

Yh you can't 4bet fold off that stack I couldn't see the eff stacks.

I think 4bet/calling is 100% the best play personally but calling is ok. So you get taken off good equity too often just flatting the 3bet OOP.

You have a premium, premium hand don't forget.

Cheers Dave
It all went in on  Ad 6c 7c  ;)

you do like a gamble.