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Does anybody know why Tiote got sent off, what a fucking joke ??

One foot off the ground and studs collide with shin pad gets a red but a high foot that stamps on someone's chest is not a booking, some please explain were my biase is coming in to it ?

As far as I can see a referee ruined our biggest game in 365 days, fukn disgrace.

Love when Monda has been on the drink.

All monda jokes aside though :P

Did you see the tackle, was it a red card ?

Literally just watched it when I saw your post. Prob not a red, can see why the ref gave it tho. Not anywhere near as bad as Michael Gray was describing on Talksport tho.

Never a red card for me, first foul was Tiote also. 

I did see it from the refs view and can understand why he gave it but it was never ever a red card, how does the ref think that tackle is worse than Larssons ?

If you can understand why he gave it, then that's why he gave it! He didn't have multiple angles. (I have not seen it)

alan pardew says it was a red card

deffo sending off for me

What a twat  ;D

It wasn't.

& you were outplayed ,lucky to get a point tbh ;D

That's not what he said in his bbcs interview when the guy said most people thought it was harsh so when did he say that ?

Shit thread Dewi, joker :P

Technology, 5 seconds, obv not a red, play on, we fukn live for this shit, complete joke.

The pundits saw it as a red though from the commentary.

They were wrong as well then, so what ?

Is anyone saying it actually was a red card ?

If it doesn't happen we win, how is Tiote's tackle worse than Larssons ?????????????????

I've seen worse tackles not get a red and it's just one of those that could have gone either way....

I thought the red card was reasonable when I first watched it in real-time.

After a few replays in slow-motion I felt that it was definitely harsh and a yellow at worst.

Who'd be a referee?

Just to burst the bubble of a complete misconception that people have; most people up here think Shearer's a twat, just saying :)

Todays game sums up why I don't waste my life on football on anymore, except Derby games ldo.

Complete injustice today.

in the Sky interview after the match he said at first glance he didn't think it was a red but looking at it again he has no complaints

somefink like that anyway

He wants to get a grip then, if that was a red card then football is a non contact Sport.

compared to lots of red cards this season it was an obvious red

Thought it wad a clear red. No axe to grind for either team. Don't understand thread lol

So Football is a non contact sport then ?

I'd still like to know how having one foot on the ground and your other foot clipping someones shin pad resulting in them rolling around like a cheating fukn ***** to get someone sent off is worse than someones foot being high enough to have their stoods going through his chest ?? Explain that to me plz ?

Why, two feet weren't off the ground, no malice was meant at all, how is it a red card ???????????????

I've watched it about 20 times btw, and I'm not biased enough to not know what's fair and what's not.

For those who haven't seen it...

http://watchhighlightsonline.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/video-tiote-red-card-vs-sunderland.html

R u fukn serious ???????

Really ?

That isn't a sending off in anyones book.

Are you drunk ray? Time to take a step back......

I'm actually not that drunk, but I won't post again until tmoro, that isn't a red card.

I said myself I could see why the ref give it, that doesn't make it right though, or fair.

Ruined a lot of peoples days unfairly.

For those that think it was a red wtf?  Don't you think the first foul was on Tiote?

The ref was poor today for most of the game imo. 

Gulp,  I fear the wrath of Monda here but that was a red card IMO, can't see why you're so upset, I've seen way softer reds than that!

Seriously, I would've took a draw beforehand, not that gutted about the result and I'm not that pissed.

I really don't understand how people are saying it's a red.

I actually thought it was the worst decision I'd seen for a long time ( maybe that is slightly biased), until I seen the sending off in the QPR game, abs roflcopters.

PS I know I said last post but not much to worry about here.

Come on Ray stop sitting on the fence. Should it have been a red card or not?

Ha, yellow for Tiote and Larsson earlier would've been suffice, sadly we didn't hold on and justice wasn't done.

I'm obv just pissed off because I punted on high card after already losing money, he finds a 4, I pick a deuce, FUK UUUUUUU :)

PS Never bet on the derby ldo.

If it cheers you up mate I thought it was a soft red

It was a strange day tbh, never felt worse beforehand, felt like shit. Even after we scored I still felt like shit, I said at half time I'd take a draw, we got a draw and I'm fine with it. We still get to laugh at them as it took an OG for them to salvage a point against 10 men, wpwp.

They always seem to bottle the derby, we should've won today but didn't...

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc

Sorry for not sticking to my last post, don't think I'm crossing lines though :)

Never a red for me, not being biased and not drunk. Defo a yellow, as was larsson. Ofc the first foul was on Tiote, he gave that anyway so not sure why someone's pointing that out, doesn't mean u can attack someone else.

Think it just shows a poor understanding of football if u think it's a red. He's not launched himself, not two footed, it's a swing of the foot not a stamp, his weight is back, not flying into the tackle, he's not out of control, he's just took a swing near the ball and missed. Those two clowns Quinn and Wilkins saying it's the tackle all footballers fear, bollocks, that's not a leg breaker, not a two-footed dive in. When the not Richard Keys guy tried to play it down they started saying it was three foot off the ground, not where the ball was. U try swinging a foot along the ground u numpty (how many foot off the ground was Larsson's). It's not an over the top stamp, it's a petulent half arsed swing at the ball.

Referees are fkin idiots, I have no sympathy. If he knew how to referee a derby he wouldn't let play go on after the first foul and create a potential flashpoint, whistle up, bollock the player, get on with it. Sunderland are terrible tho, maybe it's only fair to give them a chance

I honestly don't see how anyone can disagree with the part I've bolded, which is why it wasn't a red.

I dont believe I have a poor understanding of football even though I think It's a red and Tightend is in the red camp so I'm happy where i am!

The only thing I'll say is the clip that mond put up fails to show it in normal time, so I cant be 100% about my opinion.

Never more than a yellow. Prem only league in UK where red is even considered.

I still think it was extremely harsh  ;D

sober now?

the harsh one was Pienaar, where Bosingwa kicked fresh air and fell over the ball

this one was not a red card ten years ago, but a raised foot striking the opponent mid way up the shin bone is a red every time I am afraid

Probably not no :P

Yeah I said a few times Pienaars was diabolical.

I refer back to Jeff's post that I bolded.

Not a red for me, and there have been quite a few like that this season.