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Amazing manager and it was only a matter of time.

Thanks for the memories:

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V_EmwHBt5A

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Hope we can secure another great manager to take us forward.  The wrong appointment could see us slide back down the leagues :-(

I'm surprised he's made the move.  Thought he'd eventually go to somewhere bigger than Palace.

Who do you want to replace him?  I see Keith Hill is being linked and this is the one time I'm fearful that we'll lose him.

Keith Hill working with players like Tom Ince and Matt Phillips

Scary thought for the other teams in the division.

"Keith Hill working with players like Tom Ince and Matt Phillips

Scary thought for the other teams in the division."

I imagine the divisional big guns are now only planning to sneak second at this prospect Camel.

they should be

has worked wonders and developed other players that either had massive off the field issues and/or were not wanted by anybody else

Sean Dyche did more with Watford last year than Hill did with a lower budget.  Like the Crystal Palace love in it seems people are getting carried away again.

Barnsley came 17th last year.  They are 20th this year.  Let's get some perspective. 

I would be extremely surprised if Blackpool were not aiming highing than Keith Hill.

 

so his previous excellent work in the lower league is not worth anything?

or the fact his whole side was ripped apart twice

What the team that came 17th was ripped apart? 

Hill got Rochdale promoted once.  That's it.   Good work there and a job well done at Barnsley on a small budget.

Blackpool will aim higher.

They may do

If they end up with one of the old stock names they will regret it though

"Like the Crystal Palace love in it seems people are getting carried away again."

What has this got to do with palace? 90% of football fans would not have a clue who hill is hardly a big name

Last season Barnsley played some of the best football I have ever seen from a team outside the top division.

They did this with a team of basically unknowns and rejects.

The midfield of Butterfield, Drinkwater, O'Brien and Vaz Te was just a joy to watch.

Three of those four are no longer with the team.

Yet anyone who saw the 5-0 demolition of Brum will testify he has created another fantastic team. Again with virtually no budget.

If he gets the chance to work with better players and even with a small budget, I think he'll be a roaring success.

Hill seems to be one of those chaps who likes to dampen expectation so when Barnsley finish 21st he can say how amazing he is.  

After the Hull defeat he said something along the lines of if I get us to 50 points and we stay up it will be like having walked a tightrope with 2 broken legs.  I mean, come on.  Barnsley are really that much better off than they were under Robins or Wilson or the previous incumbents all who had similar budgets?  Are they that much worse than 8 of the other poorer championship clubs?
  
I'm not advocating Blackpool go for one of the wretchedly poor merry-go-round managers like Megson, Reid or Jewell.  But they would be better placed going for someone dynamic like Robinson at MKD or the Fleetwood boss.

Otherwise, Hill will be telling them how if they get to 60 points and come 12th, it will be like XXXXXXXXX (put cliche)

"Yet anyone who saw the 5-0 demolition of Brum will testify he has created another fantastic team."

They are 20th Camel.  One game doesn't make a season.  At Hull on Saturday they hardly had a shot on goal.

robinson?

please explain to me what he has achieved at mk dons that is so great

now that is a man with a big media reputation

lee clark mark two

MKD have a significantly lower budget than Huddersfield did.  They play attractive stuff and are consistent - he is building up a head of steam there and they have a decent shot of being an established Championship club in my opinion over the next 3/4 years if they keep him.  Lee Clark on the other hand, over successive seasons took one of the market leaders in the division to play off defeat if I remember correctly.

BH's post after Leeds v Barnsley


They won't play amazing every week, but he has spent 0.

If I was a Barnsley fan, I'd love him.

Jewell did very good jobs at Bradford and Wigan.  You won't find many Bradford fans with a bad word to say about him.  Don't really understand why he did so badly at Derby and Ipswich.  Both were in a bad way when he took over, so guess he just isn't that great at turning teams around.

 Megson hasn't done so badly over the years?

Agree with Jewell.

But while Megson hasn't done too badly in terms f success down the years, his teams play dreadfully negative football.

I would hate for him to become QPR manager.

He think flair is something the kids wore in the 1970s.

Jewell was terrible at Sheff Weds as well, and he was given a lot of patience at Wigan when they could get out of L1 despite having a big budget (although the loyalty shown was rewarded significantly after that).

All managers have had their good posts or they wouldn't be on the merry-go-round.

I don't think you'd find any club's fans who would want Megson appointed as their manager?  Has he actually acheived anything?  One promotion (WBA) with 9 different clubs, some of whom were big guns in their divisions.  He did pretty well with Albion but apart from that I am struggling to see any accomplishments.

Robins quit after refusing to work with the reduced budget that Hill inherited.

Wilson worked miracles but the Championship now is unrecognisable from 1997 with regard to our relative strength in it.  We could compete financially with probably around 10 clubs then.  Now we're probably struggling to match 3 (perhaps Peterborough and Bristol City, but I'd say we're poorest).

The ridiculous thing is that there are a lot of BFC supporters saying the same thing as you and who want him to be sacked.  They won't realise what we've got until he's gone to bigger and better things.

We were pre-season favourites to finish 24th (again) and if you offered me 20th place now I'd snap your hand off.  The difference with Hill is that we're playing better football overall than Robins, Davey, etc ever managed with a budget that decreases in relative terms each season.

We've not finished higher than 17th since getting promoted in 2006.  Hill is the best hope we have of this eventually changing.  I can't think of another realistic managerial candidate who'd keep us up on current resources.

I think you are vastly over-estimating the strength of the championship.  Until te Pozzos my team Watford were predicted to come 24th for three seasons on the bounce and we were never in any danger under various managers.  Much can be achieved with prudent resourcing in a division full of over-rated and overpaid players.

I think Hill is doing a good job, but I am merely commenting on the absurd hyperbole earlier in the thread.

i will always take a fans view over anyone

the fact they are struggling but he still sees hill as a very good operator that he is

hyperbole? opinion no hyperbole

The notion that Hill can do significantly more with blackpool than holloway did is hyperbole.  And it didn't come from the Barnsley fan.

I would stress I have never said that I think Hill is not competent at this level.

it is not hyperbole

as the exact same scenario will never happen it is opinion against opinion

just as it should be

yes you are correct perhaps the wrong context - let's say the difference in ability of Mr Hill verses Mr Holloway has been overestimated in my opinion.