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Title: Two close spots...thoughts
Post by: muckthenuts on November 04, 2012, 11:45:47 PM
Some live £1/2 from the empire. Not sure if these are all completely in game read dependent or not but i'd be really interested in responses so thought why not post anyway.

Hand 1:

A few hours in, villain is a Chinese lady in her 50's/60's. She's gambly in the way she's done plenty of open raising and peeling over a decent sample but has also shown zero 3b/4b capability at all. So far I don't expect her to 3b light ever if the peeling option is available to her. She's definitely taking the game seriously.

Folds to me in mp playing £300. I have  Kh Kc and open to £8
An aggro Chinese kid 3bets me to £26 playing £100
Chinese lady next to act looks at her cards and then instantly slides in a stack of reds without counting them. Transpires they total £105.

Folds back over. Thoughts on her tankless 4bet range, and then thoughts on folding KK here?


Title: Re: Two close spots...thoughts
Post by: muckthenuts on November 04, 2012, 11:58:22 PM
Hand 2:

About £350 deep. Villian is a fish who plays a wide range pre and is pretty bad post. He has ~£1k in front of him. One bit of history is where he peeled my open from mp then stationed 3 streets down on  Qs 6s 4c Jh Kd (£8, £12, £32, £75) with  Ks 5s. Deffo gonna play on the peelier side.

Readless EP player opens to £10. There's a few callers, i call in the SB with  Aspades Ts (i'm aware this isn't great but was inclined to gamble), BB (villian) makes up the £10 with no thought.

Flop  Ahrt Td 7c

I check, BB check, OR checks, one of the callers with ~£100 bets £20. Folds to me i raise to £55. BB looks at me, then within 3 seconds calmly slides a tower of blacks over the line. Folds through the rest of the table.

Again it's the lack of thought and being raised by a peel happy person. Feasibly i'm only beat by 77, maybe half a combo of TT and can beat A7,T7,89. But with no thought, 150bb effective and a bunch of players behind thoughts on him just always having a set here?

My image would just be solid and no way ool in both spots.


Title: Re: Two close spots...thoughts
Post by: youthnkzR on November 05, 2012, 12:47:26 AM
if your reads are 100% accurate as described then:

hand 1: villian as described doesnt just have AA here, AK s / QQ / KK possibly even AQ s and JJ are all well within her range, even if she has AA, she isnt really deep therefore id rather this situ happen with this villian rather then the villian in hand 2

hand 2: as villian has been described im loving life and enjoying doubling my money the majority if the time when he either shows up with worse 2 pair hands / combos that brick


Title: Re: Two close spots...thoughts
Post by: pleno1 on November 05, 2012, 01:23:52 AM
raise/raise size in hand 2 seems bad.

first hand i say call and then good luck, but i dont really mean it.


Title: Re: Two close spots...thoughts
Post by: discomonkey on November 07, 2012, 05:27:11 PM
hand 1. i think we sigh get it in and as pads says, wish them gl and dont mean it

not a huge fan or raising multiway on a really dry board in hand 2, would prefer a call, once he piles like that i think its time to put it in, there are enough combos of hands we beat vs hands we lose to to make it a time to wager everything we legally allowed to