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Title: Weird faceup spot
Post by: JK on November 08, 2012, 03:03:34 PM

Seat 1: LeMcnitus (150009)
Seat 2: Makaa99 (151566)
Seat 3: claude2012 (185178)
Seat 4: LasVegas14 (91422)
Seat 5: Raulito-7 (85849)
Seat 6: papat (61396)
ANTE/BLINDS
LasVegas14 posts ante 430
Raulito-7 posts ante 430
LeMcNitus posts ante 430
Makaa99 posts ante 430
claude2012 posts ante 430
papat posts ante 430
LasVegas14 posts small blind 1500
Raulito-7 posts big blind 3000
Dealt to LeMcNitus
[X] [X]
PRE-FLOP
papat folds
LeMcNitus raises 3000 to 6000
Makaa99 folds
claude2012 folds
LasVegas14 folds
Raulito-7 calls 3000
FLOP
[7C] [3H] [6S]
Raulito-7 bets 3000
LeMcNitus calls 3000
TURN
[7C] [3H] [6S] [KS]
Raulito-7 bets 3000
LeMcNitus raises 6995 to 9995
Raulito-7 calls 6995
RIVER
[7C] [3H] [6S] [KS] [JS]
Raulito-7 bets 66424 and is all-in
LeMcNitus folds
Raulito-7 collected 108494 from pot
SUMMARY
Total pot 108494 | No rake
Board:
[7C] [3H] [6S] [KS] [JS]
Seat 1: LeMcNitus folded on the river
Seat 2: Makaa99 folded on the pre-flop
Seat 3: claude2012 (button) folded on the pre-flop
Seat 4: LasVegas14 (small blind) folded on the pre-flop
Seat 5: Raulito-7 (big blind) won 108494
Seat 6: papat folded on the pre-flop


What's our calling range OTR? Our hand is pretty face up, but its not actually what it looks like.


Title: Re: Weird faceup spot
Post by: JK on November 08, 2012, 03:13:43 PM
No info on villain btw, assume he's a fish as its 10e and there aren't many sickos around at this level.

Pot is about 40k otr


Title: Re: Weird faceup spot
Post by: zerofive on November 08, 2012, 10:11:43 PM
What's the buyin and do we have the nut blocker?


Title: Re: Weird faceup spot
Post by: JK on November 08, 2012, 11:14:06 PM
What's the buyin and do we have the nut blocker?

In the second post and we do indeed have the nuts blocked


Title: Re: Weird faceup spot
Post by: cambridgealex on November 08, 2012, 11:19:14 PM
What's the buyin and do we have the nut blocker?

In the second post and we do indeed have the nuts blocked

Go allin then


Title: Re: Weird faceup spot
Post by: JK on November 08, 2012, 11:48:34 PM
Didnt really have a chance to type up my thoughts in OP as I was on my phone. Basically this is it.

To a random fish, our hand looks very much like AK. This isnt our hand, but it plays exactly the same in this spot (we have AA obv), being that he doesnt have AK ever (imo).

Even though we do block the nuts, there are a few flushes he could have in this spot (ie 1 pair on the flop, donk because hes a fish and must be good, call the turn because we have flush draw, shove river because it looks like I have AK and thats toppest pair toppest kicker.

I just felt that his range is definitely alot better than our hand, even though he can just be spacking off with worse 1 pairs. We also have 40 BBs left if we fold the river.

Really that easy a call based on the fact we have bare  Aspades?


Title: Re: Weird faceup spot
Post by: stato_1 on November 09, 2012, 12:38:50 AM
fold, very happy about it. Raise flop


Title: Re: Weird faceup spot
Post by: tron1ft8 on November 09, 2012, 02:09:05 AM
how quickly did they shove the river? its close spot here but i think if they snap shoves this river iam more inclined to call against a random fish taking this line.


Title: Re: Weird faceup spot
Post by: rfgqqabc on November 09, 2012, 02:22:42 AM
fold, very happy about it. Raise flop

I also rofl raise the flop! Like 7385.  Fold river I guess


Title: Re: Weird faceup spot
Post by: JK on November 09, 2012, 02:29:35 AM
River was a fairly quick shove. Nothing Imclickingallinasfastaspossible, but fairly fast.

Yeah should probably raise the flop


Title: Re: Weird faceup spot
Post by: rfgqqabc on November 09, 2012, 09:27:00 AM
River was a fairly quick shove. Nothing Imclickingallinasfastaspossible, but fairly fast.

Yeah should probably raise the flop

In some cases donks from fish are really week but with most you can raise flop with impunity and they'll never fold. Could be peeled by hands as week as ace9 etc if you raise small! Hope this doesn't sound really condescending by the way. Also if anyone disagrees please say.


Title: Re: Weird faceup spot
Post by: pleno1 on November 09, 2012, 11:51:18 AM
Not sure I raise flop raising turn may be better we're in position and get to see how he reacts and what sizing he uses.


Title: Re: Weird faceup spot
Post by: zerofive on November 09, 2012, 01:39:00 PM
What's the buyin and do we have the nut blocker?

In the second post and we do indeed have the nuts blocked

This makes it a fold imo.

Ideal line is raise (raise/fold) flop, bet turn, check river I think

Does anyone fold the turn as played?