Title: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Waz1892 on November 21, 2012, 09:12:03 AM Just broke on sky news
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: millidonk on November 21, 2012, 09:14:53 AM Bit of a joke imo. Guy brought them the champs league from nothing. A little blip which they always have at this time of year and he gets the boot.
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: LeKnave on November 21, 2012, 09:15:53 AM norrrr poor human ant.
back to a bugs life to live out his days. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: TightEnd on November 21, 2012, 09:16:23 AM Ridiculous after last season but not unexpected I suppose
New man comes in spends a fortune on Falcao and central defenders in January. Guardiola? Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: AndrewT on November 21, 2012, 09:19:03 AM Mark Hughes will shortly be available and I'm sure Chelsea are a club that matches his ambition.
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Micko on November 21, 2012, 09:28:07 AM Looks like RA never wanted RDM in the first place but with winning the champs league he couldn't not hire him. He was on a hiding to nothing.
Talk of Benitez. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: edgascoigne on November 21, 2012, 09:30:51 AM What perplexes me more than anything is how he was there at all last night given his commitments in St. Kitts
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: TheChipPrince on November 21, 2012, 09:51:20 AM Abramovic was 'forced' to give him the job because he did well, he certainly never wanted him to have it. He couldn't not give it him tho after winning two comps.
1st chance to get shut he snapped it up to get his 'big name' in, no surprise. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Dewi_cool on November 21, 2012, 10:12:11 AM Redknapp from 10s in to 4/1 for the job
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Josedinho on November 21, 2012, 10:13:58 AM Should never have been appointed.
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Linux on November 21, 2012, 10:15:21 AM Benitez flying back from Dubai early....
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: pleno1 on November 21, 2012, 10:35:08 AM Chelsea have been incred. Obv cos lampard is t gettin a game?
Their style is amazing, he won two cups and of they beat city on Sunday they are 1 point off the top. Joke. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: TightEnd on November 21, 2012, 10:53:09 AM (http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/full/690464278.jpg?key=575736&Expires=1353495758&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=WfteZeivaY6UK7z-nlMZ1gu1wyUf~S~qCcmh7caEkE8tNcD5ZeCI24lxq3PH~MrRrzkl6tCQPokvyIL70wrs2TB1EglFXxGoBPzkn-pqn6Wol1S26ctUJJxXuQGziojPbx-xO9WAyER5RxFzq0cj9XzOCh5salx9usbSFzCBjzY_)
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Chompy on November 21, 2012, 10:54:52 AM Guardiola @ 4/1 < Benitez @ 4/5
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: The Camel on November 21, 2012, 12:57:02 PM Chelsea 7 managers in 8 years = 8 trophies
Arsenal 1 manager in 8 years = 0 trophies. Kinds debunks the myth that stability equals success, doesn't it? Stability only equals success if you have the best manager ever in British football and unlimited resources. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: kinboshi on November 21, 2012, 01:08:36 PM Chelsea 7 managers in 8 years = 8 trophies Arsenal 1 manager in 8 years = 0 trophies. Kinds debunks the myth that stability equals success, doesn't it? Stability only equals success if you have the best manager ever in British football and unlimited resources. Sums up the state of the PL (and top-level football across a wider scale) perfectly. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: The Camel on November 21, 2012, 01:12:28 PM Chelsea 7 managers in 8 years = 8 trophies Arsenal 1 manager in 8 years = 0 trophies. Kinds debunks the myth that stability equals success, doesn't it? Stability only equals success if you have the best manager ever in British football and unlimited resources. Sums up the state of the PL (and top-level football across a wider scale) perfectly. Still, if I had to choose, I'd rather be an Arsenal supporter than a Chelsea fan. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: The Camel on November 21, 2012, 01:15:54 PM Chelsea 7 managers in 8 years = 8 trophies Arsenal 1 manager in 8 years = 0 trophies. Kinds debunks the myth that stability equals success, doesn't it? Stability only equals success if you have the best manager ever in British football and unlimited resources. Sums up the state of the PL (and top-level football across a wider scale) perfectly. Still, if I had to choose, I'd rather be an Arsenal supporter than a Chelsea fan. As long as Ian Wright is expunged from the club's history. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Skippy on November 21, 2012, 01:32:50 PM Chelsea 7 managers in 8 years = 8 trophies Arsenal 1 manager in 8 years = 0 trophies. Kinds debunks the myth that stability equals success, doesn't it? Stability only equals success if you have the best manager ever in British football and unlimited resources. These are just outliers, surely? The trend is surely fewer management changes correlates with higher success. Plus, I think you could argue that success is dependant on what club you manage (or what your budget is). Success for say West Brom is to stay in the Premier League. Success for Man Utd is to win at least a double. It's a different criteria. Given the money Everton has, I'd say David Moyes is highly successful manager, but he's won 0 trophies. I reckon if you plot a graph with budget along the x axis, average league position for the last 5 years along the y axis, and highlighted all of the clubs having changed their managers once or not at all, they'd cluster better. This trend is not a huge shock after all- why would you sack a successful manager? You only generally sack a manager after they've lost lots of games. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Karabiner on November 21, 2012, 01:39:40 PM Chelsea 7 managers in 8 years = 8 trophies Arsenal 1 manager in 8 years = 0 trophies. Kinds debunks the myth that stability equals success, doesn't it? Stability only equals success if you have the best manager ever in British football and unlimited resources. Sums up the state of the PL (and top-level football across a wider scale) perfectly. Still, if I had to choose, I'd rather be an Arsenal supporter than a Chelsea fan. As long as Ian Wright is expunged from the club's history. Has he got previous for thuggery? Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: The Camel on November 21, 2012, 02:40:54 PM Chelsea 7 managers in 8 years = 8 trophies Arsenal 1 manager in 8 years = 0 trophies. Kinds debunks the myth that stability equals success, doesn't it? Stability only equals success if you have the best manager ever in British football and unlimited resources. These are just outliers, surely? The trend is surely fewer management changes correlates with higher success. Plus, I think you could argue that success is dependant on what club you manage (or what your budget is). Success for say West Brom is to stay in the Premier League. Success for Man Utd is to win at least a double. It's a different criteria. Given the money Everton has, I'd say David Moyes is highly successful manager, but he's won 0 trophies. I reckon if you plot a graph with budget along the x axis, average league position for the last 5 years along the y axis, and highlighted all of the clubs having changed their managers once or not at all, they'd cluster better. This trend is not a huge shock after all- why would you sack a successful manager? You only generally sack a manager after they've lost lots of games. By any criteria, the last 8 years at Arsenal have been a dismal failure. A decent argument could be made that they are the second biggest club in England. They have had one manager in the Abramovich era at Chelsea and zero trophies. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Karabiner on November 21, 2012, 03:01:56 PM Chelsea 7 managers in 8 years = 8 trophies Arsenal 1 manager in 8 years = 0 trophies. Kinds debunks the myth that stability equals success, doesn't it? Stability only equals success if you have the best manager ever in British football and unlimited resources. These are just outliers, surely? The trend is surely fewer management changes correlates with higher success. Plus, I think you could argue that success is dependant on what club you manage (or what your budget is). Success for say West Brom is to stay in the Premier League. Success for Man Utd is to win at least a double. It's a different criteria. Given the money Everton has, I'd say David Moyes is highly successful manager, but he's won 0 trophies. I reckon if you plot a graph with budget along the x axis, average league position for the last 5 years along the y axis, and highlighted all of the clubs having changed their managers once or not at all, they'd cluster better. This trend is not a huge shock after all- why would you sack a successful manager? You only generally sack a manager after they've lost lots of games. By any criteria, the last 8 years at Arsenal have been a dismal failure. A decent argument could be made that they are the second biggest club in England. They have had one manager in the Abramovich era at Chelsea and zero trophies. Although Arsenal have now got a state-of-the-art stadium which is pretty-much paid for. It may have been paid partially by us not winning a trophy recently but the club is on a sound financial footing for the forseeable future and there are not many who can make that claim. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: The Camel on November 21, 2012, 03:09:01 PM Chelsea 7 managers in 8 years = 8 trophies Arsenal 1 manager in 8 years = 0 trophies. Kinds debunks the myth that stability equals success, doesn't it? Stability only equals success if you have the best manager ever in British football and unlimited resources. These are just outliers, surely? The trend is surely fewer management changes correlates with higher success. Plus, I think you could argue that success is dependant on what club you manage (or what your budget is). Success for say West Brom is to stay in the Premier League. Success for Man Utd is to win at least a double. It's a different criteria. Given the money Everton has, I'd say David Moyes is highly successful manager, but he's won 0 trophies. I reckon if you plot a graph with budget along the x axis, average league position for the last 5 years along the y axis, and highlighted all of the clubs having changed their managers once or not at all, they'd cluster better. This trend is not a huge shock after all- why would you sack a successful manager? You only generally sack a manager after they've lost lots of games. By any criteria, the last 8 years at Arsenal have been a dismal failure. A decent argument could be made that they are the second biggest club in England. They have had one manager in the Abramovich era at Chelsea and zero trophies. Although Arsenal have now got a state-of-the-art stadium which is pretty-much paid for. It may have been paid partially by us not winning a trophy recently but the club is on a sound financial footing for the forseeable future and there are not many who can make that claim. I thought the aim of football clubs was to win stuff, not to be "on a sound financial footing for the forseeable future" Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: redarmi on November 21, 2012, 03:54:46 PM Surely there is a balance here. Would rather my club was around for the forseeable future than won trophies. You can spend fortunes and still not win anything or win a cup or two and end up like Pompey, Leeds etc
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: The Camel on November 21, 2012, 04:53:02 PM Surely there is a balance here. Would rather my club was around for the forseeable future than won trophies. You can spend fortunes and still not win anything or win a cup or two and end up like Pompey, Leeds etc Of course, but it's hardly a brag that your club isn't run by a bunch of feckless neerdowells. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Skippy on November 21, 2012, 05:01:22 PM Surely there is a balance here. Would rather my club was around for the forseeable future than won trophies. You can spend fortunes and still not win anything or win a cup or two and end up like Pompey, Leeds etc Of course, but it's hardly a brag that your club isn't run by a bunch of feckless neerdowells. It is in British football at the moment. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Waz1892 on November 21, 2012, 06:41:11 PM Pepe refusing to budge from his self-given holiday, so i guess Rafa until the summer. Pepe then walks in?!
Rafa will be back in the frame in the perm, working with an agenda, and CFC don't commit to any long term contract with the view to bringing on Pepe when he gets back into Football. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: redarmi on November 21, 2012, 07:29:25 PM Both/either will be a bust at Chelsea imo.
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Waz1892 on November 21, 2012, 08:00:17 PM talk sport confirming rafa done until end of season
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Josedinho on November 21, 2012, 09:28:44 PM Great manager. Don't think it's a great fit though.
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: TheDazzler on November 21, 2012, 10:02:53 PM Got this off another site;
"Benitez becomes the Blues 20th manager since 1981. To put that in perspective ManU have had 2 managers in that time and a total of 20 mangers since 1892!!" Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: The Camel on November 21, 2012, 10:07:10 PM Both/either will be a bust at Chelsea imo. Disagree. The signings they've made in recently (Hazard, Oscar, mata) should fit the Guardiola mould perfectly. As long as he's given a chance, he can create something special (esp if Falcoa replaces Torres) Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Tal on November 21, 2012, 10:09:53 PM Mancini out. Guardiola in. Chelsea stuck with Benitez.
That would be brilliant, but not as brilliant as Michael Owen's moustache. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: millidonk on November 22, 2012, 05:22:12 PM (http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/Milligan84/519_472468319471739_1107408242_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: The Baron on November 24, 2012, 02:55:10 PM Chelsea 7 managers in 8 years = 8 trophies Arsenal 1 manager in 8 years = 0 trophies. Kinds debunks the myth that stability equals success, doesn't it? Stability only equals success if you have the best manager ever in British football and unlimited resources. Surely the correlation is with resources? I would argue that a sustained term with Mourinho/Ancelotti would have brought more than 8 trophies in 8 years. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: pokerfan on November 25, 2012, 09:05:56 PM Shreeves is a cock. ~2 mins.
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUqPu40YwHk Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: tikay on November 25, 2012, 09:13:43 PM Sometimes the media are just sooooooo bad.
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Tal on November 25, 2012, 09:21:32 PM A good interviewer is like a good barrister. It is the questions you don't ask (that you leave the audience to work out) that count most.
This is exactly the opposite. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Waz1892 on November 25, 2012, 10:57:02 PM Tries to be a sensationilist, but ends up just showing how sensational he is at being awful - so maybe he did what he was trying to do after all
Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Tal on November 25, 2012, 11:08:01 PM Discussing Rafa with a friend I was at WHL with today. He just text me:
Replacing a club legend with someone you hate is ridiculous. We'd never replace someone like hoddle with George Graham. He makes a good point, although Graham did win the Worthington Cup... Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Karabiner on November 26, 2012, 10:18:19 AM Discussing Rafa with a friend I was at WHL with today. He just text me: Replacing a club legend with someone you hate is ridiculous. We'd never replace someone like hoddle with George Graham. He makes a good point, although Graham did win the Worthington Cup... I'm not even sure that George Graham was that chairman's oddest appointment as manager. I would have to give Dr Chistian Gross that award. Title: Re: Di matteo sacked!!!! Post by: Tal on November 26, 2012, 10:21:59 AM Discussing Rafa with a friend I was at WHL with today. He just text me: Replacing a club legend with someone you hate is ridiculous. We'd never replace someone like hoddle with George Graham. He makes a good point, although Graham did win the Worthington Cup... I'm not even sure that George Graham was that chairman's oddest appointment as manager. I would have to give Dr Chistian Gross that award. He was a bit unlucky in that his number 2 was denied a work permit immediately after signing but I take your point! |