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Title: Happened last night.
Post by: Nem on January 17, 2006, 06:37:15 PM
I was playing last night when this hand happened. I've just sat down at the table, I have notes on the UTG+2 player as a bit of a fish.

£10/£20NL 6 seater.

I'm UTG with  Kh Ks I limp. I have £1920

UTG+2 raises to £80    He has       £2460

Button calls £80          He has       £2120

Blinds fold

Back to me, the pot has £210. It's £60 to call or I could raise ;)

What would you do now?



Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: TightEnd on January 17, 2006, 06:39:19 PM
Re-raise, try to get it heads up

There is £210 in the pot, £30 from the blinds, your limp and the raise which is called

re-raise £200


don't you dare let this be a UTG+2 has AA story!!!


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: jezza777 on January 17, 2006, 06:39:45 PM
call and bet out the full pot on a no ace board.


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Nem on January 17, 2006, 06:40:44 PM
don't you dare let this be a UTG+2 has AA story!!!

LOL


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Newportlad on January 17, 2006, 06:41:06 PM
How much have you got in your account at this time?


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: The Baron on January 17, 2006, 06:41:19 PM
Repop it for sure.


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: TightEnd on January 17, 2006, 06:42:10 PM
call and bet out the full pot on a no ace board.

the good old stop and go!

I prefer the re-raise, but both lines have thier attractions


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Nem on January 17, 2006, 06:44:42 PM
How much have you got in your account at this time?

I have about £32million in my account at the time ;D but I have £1920 at the table. Chip stacks in bold


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: jezza777 on January 17, 2006, 06:44:48 PM
Re-raise, try to get it heads up

There is £210 in the pot, £30 from the blinds, your limp and the raise which is called

re-raise £200


don't you dare let this be a UTG+2 has AA story!!!

I think that KK is a strong enough hand to play in a 3 way pot especially on a 6 handed table where starting values are a little distorted. Also if you reopen the betting with a reraise you take the risk of facing an allin which you will probably have to call. If you flat call and an ace hits you can get away if you bet the full pot and are reraised on the flop you can still get away. I think a flat call is the play here.


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Nem on January 17, 2006, 06:46:50 PM
Ok, I made it £220 to play (do you think that this raise was enough?)


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: TightEnd on January 17, 2006, 06:48:19 PM
about £20 too much  :D


i think so. I suppose the problem is once the original raiser calls you re-raise then the third party gets priced in


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: jezza777 on January 17, 2006, 06:49:38 PM
Ok, I made it £220 to play (do you think that this raise was enough?)

Enough to do what exactly? Get it heads up? take the pot there and then ?


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Newmanseye on January 17, 2006, 06:50:38 PM
I would make it really expensive, over bet the pot to get heads up. I would probably say about $600 to chase one of them off. Then Beat them to the pot on the flop.


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Nem on January 17, 2006, 06:52:05 PM
Obviously I wanted to get hu with UTG+2. Maybe I should've raised to £300.


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: TightEnd on January 17, 2006, 06:52:18 PM
I would make it really expensive, over bet the pot to get heads up. I would probably say about $600 to chase one of them off. Then Beat them to the pot on the flop.

if the is an Ace on the flop?


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: jezza777 on January 17, 2006, 06:54:05 PM
to get it Hu then I think a bigger raise is needed £300+ should do it


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Nem on January 17, 2006, 06:54:55 PM
£10/£20NL 6 seater.

I'm UTG with  Kh Ks I limp. I have £1920

UTG+2 raises to £80    He has       £2460

Button calls £80          He has       £2120

Blinds fold

Back to me, the pot has £210. It's £60 to call or I could raise ;)

What would you do now?



I re-raised to £220

UTG+2 calls

Button calls

£690 in the pot

flop is:

 Jh Td 3s

Im 1st to act

What would you do now?


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on January 17, 2006, 06:56:18 PM
I would raise to 240 especially with your hand.

Possible someone is raising with  Ad with medium kicker knowing online players.

Saying that will my form would probably be up against   Ac Ahrt lol


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on January 17, 2006, 06:58:13 PM
Still think you have to show your strength, maybe a bet 3/4 of the current pot


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: jezza777 on January 17, 2006, 07:01:49 PM
Ok not a bad flop and a big bonus that it has no ace , you have to bet out for information, to show strength and price out any draws. I dont think a full pot bet is needed here. 3/4 of the pot should do. OR if you routienly make continuation bets and  your opponents know this then maybe a strong check raise is the play. With 2 other players in the pot and a decent amount in the middle surley someone will go for it.


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on January 17, 2006, 07:03:55 PM
but knowing all these online players with money to throw away they could be calling with anything


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Dewi_cool on January 17, 2006, 07:04:22 PM
 ;iagree; check raise 3/4 pot



Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Newmanseye on January 17, 2006, 07:14:04 PM
check raise sounds right, but given your raise and the calls there could be a set out there. I would tread carefully on the turn if your check raise is called.


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Nem on January 17, 2006, 07:25:22 PM
£10/£20NL 6 seater.

I'm UTG with  Kh Ks I limp. I have £1920

UTG+2 raises to £80    He has       £2460

Button calls £80          He has       £2120

Blinds fold

Back to me, the pot has £210. It's £60 to call or I could raise ;)


I re-raised to £220

UTG+2 calls

Button calls

£690 in the pot

flop is:

 Jh Td 3s

Im 1st to act

What would you do now?

I decided to bet out £600... £1290 in the pot

UTG+2 goes all in for £2320!!!

Button flat calls


What do you think UTG+2 and the button have?

Do you call or fold?


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Dewi_cool on January 17, 2006, 07:35:41 PM
Button 33 Utg + 2 AJ


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Nem on January 17, 2006, 07:43:06 PM
Would you call with  Kh Kc Dewi?


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: WellChief on January 17, 2006, 07:45:40 PM
Ok you have shown extreme strength and been faced with an all in and a flat call.  It's an easy fold here.  I would guess AJ or TJ for UTG +2 and maybe 10 10 for the button, although the button could also be on AA.  However I have seen some terrible play on these high limit tables and I wouldn't rule out a KQ being out there.


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Ironside on January 17, 2006, 07:47:16 PM
call and tell us you got beat by the Kd Qd


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Dewi_cool on January 17, 2006, 07:49:15 PM
I still think you have to call. not happy about it ,but I call


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Nem on January 17, 2006, 07:59:24 PM
£10/£20NL 6 seater.

I'm UTG with  Kh Ks I limp. I have £1920

UTG+2 raises to £80    He has       £2460

Button calls £80          He has       £2120

Blinds fold

Back to me, the pot has £210. It's £60 to call or I could raise ;)


I re-raised to £220

UTG+2 calls

Button calls

£690 in the pot

flop is:

 Jh Td 3s

Im 1st to act

What would you do now?

I decided to bet out £600... £1290 in the pot

UTG+2 goes all in for £2320!!!

Button flat calls


What do you think UTG+2 and the button have?

Do you call or fold?


I didn't call.

UTG+2 showed  Kc Qh

Button showed  3c 3h for trip 3's

Turn was  Aspades to give UTG+2 the straight

and the 4d on the river meant that UTG+2 won the pot with a straight holding   Kc Qh


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: Dewi_cool on January 17, 2006, 08:00:44 PM
Thats why I never play cash  good fold


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: WellChief on January 17, 2006, 08:06:25 PM
I didn't think you would call.  You can't call here.  I'd have called UTG +2's bet but once the button calls its an easy fold.  Pretty ridiculous play by UTG +2 but rewarded.  Keeps the fish in the game though.


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: snoopy1239 on January 17, 2006, 08:07:55 PM
I would have played the hand the same.


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: jezza777 on January 17, 2006, 11:12:58 PM
just got back from work so just caught up with this. Definately a fold after all you have one pair here. both calls preflop seem a bit fishy tho. Betting out was the right choice as a check raise would have cost more and perhaps commited you to the pot .


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: The Baron on January 17, 2006, 11:59:31 PM
I would have played the hand the same.

Me too.

By the way was this you or the mysterious "hero" again?


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: mystery721 on January 22, 2006, 12:27:48 AM
fold! trips couldnt be any more obvious even if he turned them upright, altho i woulda said trip jokes or 10s


Title: Re: Happened last night.
Post by: ifm on January 22, 2006, 12:41:40 AM

By the way was this you or the mysterious "hero" again?

The hero/villain is a 2+2 forum thing.