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Dont really know how to react on the turn.

Not many hands on villain, like 150 and stats at the time were 35/17/2.3 and 3ballin 11%, low fold to cbet too. But as I said low samples. He's already 3b me twice on other Speed tables, one I called and ended up folding postflop with AQ and the other I folded pre so he's applied pressure to me already in the very few hands I've played at 100NL Speed

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (IPoker)
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, December 10, 06:07:44 ET 2012
Table Speed Holdem 5 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $96.00 USD ) - VPIP: 32, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 331
Seat 3: Player3 ( $93.50 USD ) - VPIP: 28, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 40
Seat 5: Player5 ( $40.00 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 16, 3B: 2, AF: 7.5, Hands: 166
Seat 6: Player6 ( $161.63 USD ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 11, 3B: 8, AF: 0.0, Hands: 47
Seat 8: Player8 ( $438.85 USD ) - VPIP: 28, PFR: 23, 3B: 7, AF: 2.9, Hands: 240
Seat 10: Hero ( $100.00 USD ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 2.2, Hands: 70900
Hero posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Player1 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [  8s Ks ]
Player3 folds
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player8 folds
Hero raises [$2.50 USD]
Player1 calls [$2.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 8h, 7d ]
Hero bets [$4.00 USD]
Player1 calls [$4.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
Hero bets [$11.00 USD]
Player1 raises [$25.00 USD]
Hero???

I wanted to raise to make 65/9T and FDs pay to draw but also could look like a tit if he's got me crushed
Just felt like a spot where I'm massively right or massively wrong.

you can't fold this hand eveytime in this spot but with only 150 hands I'd fold and wait till we have more info before we start building a range of which hands we defend and dont defend in this spot. Best vacuum play very likely is to fold so I'd do that but make a note.

Playing 19/14 over. 70k hands can't be good! Punish those bad regs!

I'm aware my stats are on the nitty side :/ but I'm learning on my way up the hard way. If it means being nittier then so be it.
Would rather increase my aggression than be a 28/24 maniac.

19/14 in 6 max is not great. If you are still doing well with this style over big sample then maybe i need to start playing over on ipoker :p

I agree it's tight but in Speed 6Max in particular your folding a huge chunk of hands in 4 out of 6 positions, multitable that and you look like a nit  ;carlocitrone;

I play 8 tables of 200nl and 100nl 6 max zoom for a living. My stats are 20/17/7. I think you should probs be a bit more aggressive. :)

Not that much more really. Aggression has increased to 3ish in December. So signs are there sort of.
8 tables is mental. I can do 4 but anymore and I'd be in autopilot.

I definitely agree that 19/14 is much too tight. It doesn't matter whether it is rush/zoom/speed, or 'normal' poker.

You can partly make up for being too tight preflop if you play like a super aggro mofo postflop... you will get away with a LOT postflop since most opponents will give you a ton of credit (and they should tbh, since you will just have a good hand on the flop more often than most players due to your tight preflop range). But you should still play more hands.

Why don't you post your positional stats? I would guess that you are not playing anywhere near enough hands from the BTN/CO.

Bully you going through the styles lol i remember telling you a year ago you cant play 36/27 etc lol

It's like a good natural cycle you're going on i think, you start out overly spewy and tighten right up to playing a little too passive before too long you have settled up in a style that is both functionally profitable and that works for you :)

(I could have quoted any of the last few posts).

It's almost 2013. Has it now got to a point where there a "right" and "wrong" style- so all that TAG and LAG stuff I used to read about has been scrapped, and you are either opening the right number of hands or you're not?

I definitely feel like I am going through transition. I think compared to where I was a year ago when I started out playing 6Max I've learnt alot (albeit slowly) and now I've some how gone from one end to the scale to the other.
I dont agree that there is a set stat to how many hands you should be playing but more the aggression that you play them at. All good and well being a 28/26 pre but not if you aggro is 1.4 etc...

This is December thus far.
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Thoughts on check/call turn? Leading rivers if he checks back?

This is BvB, we're first to act on the river.

I bet for value on the turn. Which is why (IMO) it's such a weird place for villain to be ever bluffing.

But c/c turn and b/f river probably costs more to do doesnt it? plus there's a lot of possible bad rivers that we cant really bet.

he means if you check the turn/

Only thoughts so might be bad. But checking turn to get value from all his floats, all his draws will now bet and takes away opportunity for him to raise turn on a draw (though unlikely on this turn card). If none of the draws complete we can c/c again or evaluate. If he checks back turn he likely has sdv and we have best hand, not a great of bad rivers in this case imo and can lead for value vs a now much wider calling range.

Not sure how i've articulated that cos i'm knacked but any thoughts?

As am I, apologies.

If rivers safe enough then betting if turn is checked.