Title: Flop decision Post by: Royal Flush on January 18, 2006, 01:38:46 AM Multi-Table Tournament
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes MTT Table 3 6641421-24 Holdem No Limit 30/60 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Hand Start. [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 1 : chickendick has $1,500 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 2 : jwhitt has $1,950 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 3 : mond323 has $2,670 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 4 : UofMGOBLUE has $8,870 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 5 : gomelo00 has $2,970 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 6 : Flush Royal has $1,850 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 7 : R.Paul has $1,730 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 8 : kdqueenbee has $2,980 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 9 : bluffenuff has $3,110 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : bluffenuff is the dealer. [Jan 18 01:23:59] : chickendick posted small blind. [Jan 18 01:23:59] : jwhitt posted big blind. [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Game [24] started with 9 players. [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Dealing Hole Cards. [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 6 : Flush Royal has 7h 9h [Jan 18 01:24:02] : mond323 folded. [Jan 18 01:24:05] : UofMGOBLUE folded. [Jan 18 01:24:05] : gomelo00 folded. [Jan 18 01:24:11] : Flush Royal called 60 and raised 90 [Jan 18 01:24:11] : R.Paul folded. [Jan 18 01:24:11] : kdqueenbee folded. [Jan 18 01:24:19] : bluffenuff called 150 and raised 200 [Jan 18 01:24:20] : chickendick folded. [Jan 18 01:24:29] : jwhitt called 290 [Jan 18 01:24:33] : Flush Royal called 200 [Jan 18 01:24:33] : Dealing flop. [Jan 18 01:24:33] : Board cards [4s Th 9s] [Jan 18 01:24:38] : jwhitt checked. [Jan 18 01:24:41] : Flush Royal checked. [Jan 18 01:24:44] : bluffenuff bet 200 [Jan 18 01:24:56] : jwhitt folded. What do we do now the action is back on us? Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: jezza777 on January 18, 2006, 01:49:05 AM Reraise he ' s trying to use his stack to accumalate chips and the bet is weak.
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: The Baron on January 18, 2006, 01:51:25 AM Not the worst idea. I dont think you gain information by calling and it might win the pot there and then. You dont wanna see another overcard either.
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Gamblor21 on January 18, 2006, 02:34:55 AM I don't play the hand pre flop! it is a trouble hand... ;goodvevil;
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Royal Flush on January 18, 2006, 02:38:32 AM I don't play the hand pre flop! it is a trouble hand... ;goodvevil; Just because you know the result!!! Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Gamblor21 on January 18, 2006, 02:42:33 AM ok ok...
I probably smooth call for the turn and then make a decision whether to make a move or not! Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Royal Flush on January 18, 2006, 03:02:18 AM [Jan 18 01:24:59] : Flush Royal called 200 and raised 1,300 and is All-in [Jan 18 01:25:04] : bluffenuff called 1,300 [Jan 18 01:25:04] : Showdown! [Jan 18 01:25:04] : Seat 6 : Flush Royal has 7h 9h [Jan 18 01:25:07] : Seat 9 : bluffenuff has Tc Ts [Jan 18 01:25:16] : Board cards [4s Th 9s 9c Jc] [Jan 18 01:25:16] : Flush Royal has 3 of a Kind: 9s [Jan 18 01:25:16] : bluffenuff has Full House : 10s full of 9s [Jan 18 01:25:16] : bluffenuff wins 4,080 with Full House : 10s full of 9s [Jan 18 01:25:22] : Hand is over. Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Nem on January 18, 2006, 03:04:14 AM ;scarymoment;
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: portfolio on January 18, 2006, 03:40:42 PM re-buy?
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: jezza777 on January 19, 2006, 01:49:44 AM Ahhhh so it was a sucker bet.............
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Royal Flush on January 19, 2006, 10:48:47 PM Ahhhh so it was a sucker bet............. silence you. Can you please ask Kezza what the correct move is. Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: 12barblues on January 20, 2006, 07:35:46 AM I rather like your move. It's the kind of thing I often think about but rarely have the guts to do. He needs a whomper of a hand to call. It's just unfortunate that this time he had it.
I'd have gone bust in a much less entertaining manner after making trips on the turn rotflmfao Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Royal Flush on January 20, 2006, 09:31:26 AM hehe, love it 12BB
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: mystery721 on January 20, 2006, 08:04:18 PM LOL u played 7 9 in a mtt early stages from mid posistion like that? and ur trying to give me advice? lol (just kidding) why were u even in the pot preflop? why did u call the reraise, this guys raised u preflop and when he bets u automatically think ur 9 is good? u couldnt of played the hand any worse if u tried! i wouldnt be in preflop, but if i was id fold the reraise, but if i called i woulda folded the bet on the flop, how many opportunities do u want to get away from a hand? at the end of the day u got eliminated from a mtt with 7 9 after calling a reraise then reraising all in on the flop with second pair, i can guarentee that aint a way to win tourneys, gl in the future tho
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: mystery721 on January 20, 2006, 08:08:16 PM reading the answers and opinions u were given, i cant believe noone said fold? i wish u guys played in my home game lol, take it easy and have fun 8)
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: dan on January 20, 2006, 08:20:14 PM reading the answers and opinions u were given, i cant believe noone said fold? i wish u guys played in my home game lol, take it easy and have fun 8) i wish i played in your home too because so far all you have said is that that you have layed down aces kings and queens preflop and AK when there has been no raise Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: mystery721 on January 20, 2006, 08:32:11 PM these folds were all folds that needed to be made at that given time, its coming across that i fold monsters everyday, these situations are very very rare, will i get A A 2 places from the money with 4 players all in b4 me again? probably not! will i have to fold an all in bet with q q preflop? possibly, its the monster hands that make me my monster payouts, im just saying there is situations that u need to fold these hands, and in my opinion if u cant make these folds then ur not the complete poker player (well as complete as u can be)
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Royal Flush on January 20, 2006, 08:34:10 PM LOL u played 7 9 in a mtt early stages from mid posistion like that? and ur trying to give me advice? lol (just kidding) why were u even in the pot preflop? why did u call the reraise, this guys raised u preflop and when he bets u automatically think ur 9 is good? u couldnt of played the hand any worse if u tried! i wouldnt be in preflop, but if i was id fold the reraise, but if i called i woulda folded the bet on the flop, how many opportunities do u want to get away from a hand? at the end of the day u got eliminated from a mtt with 7 9 after calling a reraise then reraising all in on the flop with second pair, i can guarentee that aint a way to win tourneys, gl in the future tho It's called being a playaaaaa. I am not trying ot give you advice, keep folding AA for all i care, just dont advise others to do it! There is more to poker than AA KK QQ. Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: JungleCat03 on January 20, 2006, 11:17:31 PM This was a badly played hand Flush Royal. To illustrate this i have asked a mystery pro to give his opinion on the hand and show u where y went wrong. To make things more interesting i have changed the actions on a couple of streets. Mystery Pro: OMG I would destroy that field. I would estimate my 1850 chips is worth the equivalent roughly of a 44,000 stack. Wait a minute 1850 chips??? WTF? 150 down already??? this is 2.5 BBs. I would have to question why this is the case. I'm guessing you've had AK utg a couple of times. OK i guess. Anyway on with the hand. I could be getting my royal flushes and other assorted nut hands paid off on ladbrokes right now!!! GET ON WITH IT!!! Multi-Table Tournament Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes MTT Table 3 6641421-24 Holdem No Limit 30/60 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Hand Start. [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 1 : chickendick has $1,500 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 2 : jwhitt has $1,950 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 3 : mond323 has $2,670 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 4 : UofMGOBLUE has $8,870 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 5 : gomelo00 has $2,970 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 6 : Flush Royal has $1,850 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 7 : R.Paul has $1,730 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 8 : kdqueenbee has $2,980 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 9 : bluffenuff has $3,110 [Jan 18 01:23:59] : bluffenuff is the dealer. [Jan 18 01:23:59] : chickendick posted small blind. [Jan 18 01:23:59] : jwhitt posted big blind. [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Game [24] started with 9 players. [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Dealing Hole Cards. [Jan 18 01:23:59] : Seat 6 : Flush Royal has 7h 9h [Jan 18 01:24:02] : mond323 folded. [Jan 18 01:24:05] : UofMGOBLUE folded. [Jan 18 01:24:05] : gomelo00 folded. [Jan 18 01:24:11] : Flush Royal called 60 and raised 90 M.P. OMG! SICK SICK! Did you misclick!! NO NO, you have 9 hi! I'm good enough to fold KK here and u raise 9 Hi. I read you for a mislick. [Jan 18 01:24:11] : R.Paul folded. [Jan 18 01:24:11] : kdqueenbee folded. [Jan 18 01:24:19] : bluffenuff called 150 and raised 200 [Jan 18 01:24:20] : chickendick folded. [Jan 18 01:24:29] : jwhitt called 290 [Jan 18 01:24:33] : Flush Royal called 200 M.P. HUH HUH???? Flat call, sick, just giving chips away. I fold preflop, fold here and if i accidentally misclicked i immediately disconnect from the internet to beat myself with bamboo sticks for calling a raise out of position, especially with 9 hi!!!!! Yourrr SICK MR ROYAL, never gonna make the top 15 of ladbrokes leaderboard with this strategy. Anyway i will pretend i call for the purposes of this farce, you jokers. [Jan 18 01:24:33] : Dealing flop. [Jan 18 01:24:33] : Board cards [ Th 9s 5c ] [Jan 18 01:24:38] : jwhitt checked. [Jan 18 01:24:41] : Flush Royal checked. I open muck. After my previous errors i am too ashamed to play. Plus i have 2nd pair on a dangeorus board. A9 K9 Q9 J9 T9 TT 99 95 T5 55 are all ahead of me here. Not to mention JQ JK J8 78 67 68 all with outs to beat me. Easy open muck. [Jan 18 01:24:44] : bluffenuff bet 200 [Jan 18 01:24:56] : jwhitt folded. [Jan 18 01:24:59] : Flush Royal called 200. THrow your chips away then, see if i care. Come play my home game, i'll destroy your 79 with my quad aces. I will throw myself into your magical mystery sea-life world and pretend i am seeing a turn card with 2nd pair - as if!!!!!!!!!! [Jan 18 01:25:00] : Dealing turn card. [Jan 18 01:25:16] : Board cards [Th 9s 5c 9d ] [Jan 18 01:25:30] : Flush Royal checked. Well i check with a view to getting this checked down so i agree with this action. This is a horrible turn card for me as i now have an average hand and may be forced to put one small bet in while i could well be behind. I never get myself in these difficult situations becuase I am a pro. [Jan 18 01:25:16] : bluffenuff bets 200. MP: PHEWWWWW! He makes the decision easy for me. Hes showing strenth and im out of position, Trips no good. Easy fold. At last I'm outta here and back to my 10$ satellite. Good luck mugz. [Jan 18 01:25:33] : Flush Royal called 200 and raised 1100 and is allin. MP: WHAT, still in the hand? This is crazy!!!!! He hasn't even got the 5th nuts and he moves allin. Incredible! I can muck T9 here and he cant fold 97. This guy is really really bad. I would mop all his chips up like spilt gravy. Easy fold and he check riases allin. He hasn't got the first idea! One of those fish who probably raises AK out of position. WHAT A FISH!!!! You're going broke loser. [Jan 18 01:25:36] : bluffenuff calls 1100. SHOWDOWN! [Jan 18 01:25:16] : Flush Royal has 3 of a Kind: 9 s [Jan 18 01:25:16] : bluffenuff has Full House : 10s full of 9s [Jan 18 01:25:16] : bluffenuff wins 4,080 with Full House : 10s full of [Jan 18 01:25:22] : Hand is over. MP: Oh look what a surprise, get your chips in without the nuts and you lose. It only goes to prove, NEVER PUT YOUR CHIPS IN WITHOUT THE STONE COLD NUTS. Only the other day i was playing a tournament. I had played great poker throughout, never putting all my chips in danger and had a stack of 400 with the blinds at 150 300. I am in the BB with KK and some1 raises from MP. I think about folding here, i'm only drawing at a non-A flop but i decide to gamble and call. He flips A5, and hits an ace and i'm sent to the rail after this bad beat. Really though i blamed myself! What was i doing allin preflop relying on luck! I should be folding and looking for a better spot and this moment of weakness cost me. It really hammered home the above. All you loosey goosey players like flush royal and dan harrington can play your 79s and AKs and ill be bringing home the bacon baby!!!!! Laterz kippers!!! Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: jezza777 on January 21, 2006, 12:17:06 AM rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Royal Flush on January 21, 2006, 12:24:01 AM PMSL
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Colchester Kev on January 21, 2006, 12:25:51 AM That is probably the funniest post i have seen on here for a very long time, Arise SIR jungle cat. Inspired
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Nem on January 21, 2006, 12:27:05 AM LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: 12barblues on January 21, 2006, 12:30:27 AM Hard but fair..... rotflmfao
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Ginger on January 21, 2006, 12:31:36 AM LMAO ! :goodpost:
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: thelodger on January 21, 2006, 12:56:09 AM chit, that pro thinks like me!.... :ironside: :goodpost:
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Bazzaboy on January 21, 2006, 12:49:47 PM Class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love it Jungle Cat Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: portfolio on January 21, 2006, 01:02:43 PM tres amusant.
i foresee a career in politics for you,especially if the position of black rod ever becomes available! perhaps a time check is reqd to see what day some players actually started playing hold em,and suitable lessons in sycophancy so that all responses are suitable to the posters requirements? tap tap. Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: mikkyT on January 21, 2006, 02:00:16 PM Genius :D
BTW, did mystery1234567 help you to write that? Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: mystery721 on January 21, 2006, 05:32:58 PM that was the funniest thing ive ever read, well done anytime u wanna go heads up for $5000 give me a shout, u only have to win 3 games b4 i win 10 and the $5000 is urs
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: mystery721 on January 21, 2006, 05:41:57 PM alot of u on here and im not trying to be offensive here (sorry if it comes across that way), seem to think that i constantly fold monster hands! none of u seem to realize these are situations that probably will never arise again, if u dont have the sense to realize that there is a time for folding monsters and a time for playing 7 9, then thats probably why ur scaping by on maybe a couple final tables a year if ur lucky, and maybe making a profit playing cash once in awhile, im 23 years old been playing this game 18 months and ill never have to work again, while theres players out there been playing 20 years and still not won a tourney
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: The_nun on January 21, 2006, 06:08:19 PM I wish you good luck...Nice to see someone so young not having to think about getting on in life in the usual way.. ..you obviously have dicovered early in life, that you are a talented poker player and for that I for one can not call you. I do not know you as a person so can not really comment on whether or not you are offensive. Sometimes we don't all think or read into posts the same...
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: mystery721 on January 21, 2006, 06:36:21 PM im not sure if that a dig or not, (it sounds like one), if it is then u have no idea of the things i have to do each day and the daily responsabilities i have, if it wasnt a dig then i appologise, take care and have fun
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: The_nun on January 21, 2006, 06:45:10 PM ..NO it was NOT a dig....obviously there is no pleaseing you,..It was wrote with sincerity. I was trying to be positive towards your posts as I think you feel there is a lot of negativity around.
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Ginger on January 21, 2006, 06:52:09 PM alot of u on here and im not trying to be offensive here (sorry if it comes across that way), seem to think that i constantly fold monster hands! none of u seem to realize these are situations that probably will never arise again, if u dont have the sense to realize that there is a time for folding monsters and a time for playing 7 9, then thats probably why ur scaping by on maybe a couple final tables a year if ur lucky, and maybe making a profit playing cash once in awhile, im 23 years old been playing this game 18 months and ill never have to work again, while theres players out there been playing 20 years and still not won a tourney I have no idea either if you are trying to be offensive or not, but it certainly seems like you are trying to belittle a few people, but to put the record straight I would like to point out a couple of things. As James (Royal Flush) is unable to reply himself, I don't think he will mind me making a comment. James by no means is "scraping" by, he is a very successful player, getting final tables each day, NOT a couple of times a year. He has been playing online for a few years moving to live also for roughly the last year, he used part of the profit to undertake training as firstly a private pilot, and going on to take his commercial pilots licence. This was at the age of 21, he is now 23 and still plays poker (mainly Mtt’s, very rarely cash games) instead of flying as it is actually a better income for him. Just because people do not play the same as you, and hold the same views don’t assume they are not talented and winning players, all it does is show ignorance. Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Teacake on January 21, 2006, 07:58:07 PM Whens the next Blonde online tourney, I cant wait its gonna be fireworks ;goodvevil;
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Newmanseye on January 21, 2006, 08:04:07 PM spot teacake the mixer :D :D :D
;ifm; ;ifm; ;ifm; ;ifm; ;ifm; ;ifm; ;ifm; Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Gamblor21 on January 25, 2006, 07:39:02 PM I take you on at that mystery... 3 before you get to 10! Not a problem... you have to realise, Mr Flush has decided to make a move on a player... knowing he could have the worst hand but better hands may pass against him.
Passing big hands is a key part of poker but making moves is also becoming just as vital! Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: portfolio on January 26, 2006, 05:03:51 PM I take you on at that mystery... 3 before you get to 10! Not a problem... you have to realise, Mr Flush has decided to make a move on a player... knowing he could have the worst hand but better hands may pass against him. Passing big hands is a key part of poker but making moves is also becoming just as vital! :blonde: Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Gamblor21 on January 26, 2006, 05:33:53 PM I take you on at that mystery... 3 before you get to 10! Not a problem... you have to realise, Mr Flush has decided to make a move on a player... knowing he could have the worst hand but better hands may pass against him. Passing big hands is a key part of poker but making moves is also becoming just as vital! :blonde: You not agree Clive? Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: portfolio on January 26, 2006, 08:27:05 PM erm no.
oddly. Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: Gamblor21 on January 26, 2006, 09:10:01 PM which part, can you be move specific?
Would you not take him on only having to win 3/12! Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: JP on January 27, 2006, 01:18:36 AM James why did you go all in? I make it 600 here if i'm playing the hand on the flop but this guy has virtually mini raised preflop now and weak led on the flop be scared! I don't mind smooth calling the 200 here as you have a nice few turn cards. I play those hands if I am deep stacked and in a good position. Might be worth cutting your losses preflop. All in on the flop is a weak move here. Call,make it 600 or fold.
Title: Re: Flop decision Post by: portfolio on January 27, 2006, 01:50:13 AM jp answered it perfectly for me. ;goodvevil;
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