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Title: What is our get it in range vs cold4... (simple or no?) Post by: youthnkzR on December 18, 2012, 05:08:38 PM Notes on villains:
- potiss... : no exact stats but is fairly active and has a fairly high 3b % (only over a 120 hand sample) - is a ~$65k winner over a 10k game sample ($11 ABI) (Has not 3bet hero previous) - KpacoTeHb : no exact stats but is fairly active and has an average 3b % (only over a 120 hand sample) - is a steady $40k winner over a 2k game sample ($27 ABI) previous to this both villians are unknowns to us as we are to them. hero has been playing 11/10 over a 120 hand sample and is UTG. Tournament is $11r action hour on stars Table '658012137 12' 9-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: MattaTott (11099 in chips) Seat 2: KTZpoker (9687 in chips) Seat 3: potiss... (27760 in chips) Seat 4: Farley2008 (18801 in chips) Seat 5: whattime690 (10323 in chips) Seat 6: erwi_n12 (4592 in chips) Seat 7: KpacoTeHb (19035 in chips) Seat 8: LordHedon (10305 in chips) Seat 9: GaggleoKings (19152 in chips) MattaTott: posts the ante 60 KTZpoker: posts the ante 60 potiss...: posts the ante 60 Farley2008: posts the ante 60 whattime690: posts the ante 60 erwi_n12: posts the ante 60 KpacoTeHb: posts the ante 60 LordHedon: posts the ante 60 GaggleoKings: posts the ante 60 KpacoTeHb: posts small blind 150 LordHedon: posts big blind 300 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to GaggleoKings [X X] GaggleoKings: raises 311 to 611 MattaTott: folds KTZpoker: folds potiss...: raises 1458 to 2069 Farley2008: folds whattime690: folds erwi_n12: folds KpacoTeHb: raises 3031 to 5100 LordHedon: folds GaggleoKings: What is our get it in range here? (could be simple but i struggled for a decision with my hand). Title: Re: What is our get it in range vs cold4... (simple or no?) Post by: outragous76 on December 18, 2012, 05:12:01 PM you need a very specific reason to think people cold4 without it - your stats dont give a reason
KK+ Title: Re: What is our get it in range vs cold4... (simple or no?) Post by: youthnkzR on December 18, 2012, 07:08:12 PM I had XX felt like a gross spot. I ended up folding. 3 bettor also folded so no results sigh.
Title: Re: What is our get it in range vs cold4... (simple or no?) Post by: outragous76 on December 18, 2012, 07:36:10 PM I had KK felt like a gross spot. I ended up folding. 3 bettor also folded so no results sigh. quoted dont tell people you fold KK pre! Title: Re: What is our get it in range vs cold4... (simple or no?) Post by: youthnkzR on December 18, 2012, 08:04:20 PM I had KK felt like a gross spot. I ended up folding. 3 bettor also folded so no results sigh. quoted dont tell people you fold KK pre! fmp ;) Title: Re: What is our get it in range vs cold4... (simple or no?) Post by: Rod on December 18, 2012, 08:17:02 PM This is an $11r so a bit above what I normally play but in normal $11 tournaments on Stars you do certainly get players who can 3-bet light and fold to a 4 bet, this is pretty exploitable as well. Although 120 hands is not a large sample size it is enough to get an idea if somebody is 3-betting light. A winning player is of course more likely to be four betting light and than non winning player.
With all this said though a cold 4-bet without a massive hand is so rare that if somebody does it I would just be believe them. Even players who 3-bet wide are often pretty tight on 4-betting. I would assign the cold 4 bettor a range of QQ+ and AK. Does that sound reasonable? Against that range you are around 40% with QQ or AK, 57% with KK and 84% with AA. To be honest the bet size makes me think he is more likely to have AA or KK here Therefore if my range above is correct and I do not think it is to far off you can only call with AA and KK. Title: Re: What is our get it in range vs cold4... (simple or no?) Post by: cambridgealex on December 18, 2012, 08:21:35 PM Lol you fold kings too often IMO ;)
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