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Title: Line check Post by: rbc_mike on December 20, 2012, 03:11:37 AM PokerStars Hand #91025859781: Hold'em No Limit (€0.25/€0.50 EUR) - 2012/12/20 3:00:07 WET [2012/12/19 22:00:07 ET]
Table 'Lutetia IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: vivalefish (€80.56 in chips) Seat 2: Pokaredas (€13.80 in chips) Seat 3: SoSick73 (€63.57 in chips) Seat 4: edouf471 (€3.98 in chips) Seat 5: tib0rk0vaX (€56.91 in chips) Seat 6: DIMEHDI 31 (€47.29 in chips) edouf471: posts small blind €0.25 tib0rk0vaX: posts big blind €0.50 Pokaredas: posts small & big blinds €0.75 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to vivalefish [Ac Jc] DIMEHDI 31: calls €0.50 vivalefish: raises €2 to €2.50 Pokaredas: calls €2 SoSick73: calls €2.50 edouf471: folds tib0rk0vaX: folds DIMEHDI 31: calls €2 *** FLOP *** [Ah 7s 6h] DIMEHDI 31: checks vivalefish: bets €7 Pokaredas: folds SoSick73: raises €12 to €19 DIMEHDI 31: folds vivalefish: HERO? Iso'd big pre because it's .fr, there's dead money and I probs have the best hand. SoSick73 has been pretty aggro, raising me lots, think he knows that I probs have a big ace and will have to fold it. In a bit of a coffin if I call, but makes me pretty exploitable if I'm always folding here right? Thoughts please... Title: Re: Line check Post by: JustinSayne on December 20, 2012, 10:39:24 AM I fold without a second thought tbh.
Title: Re: Line check Post by: Honeybadger on December 20, 2012, 07:45:20 PM You are not exploitable if you fold here. You have a load of stronger hands in your range so it is not as if villain can go round recklessly raising your cbets with impunity. AA/AK/AQ/77/66/76s/A7s/A6s (plus some FDs, OESDs, pair plus FD etc) are all in your preflop range, as is AJ with a BDFD. Your exact hand is pretty far down the bottom of your range, especially considering you are not cbetting your entire range on this board multiway. So forget thinking stuff like "it is so exploitable if I fold". Moreover, the responsibility for defending against flop bluff raises does not purely fall on you... the fact that the UTG limper will sometimes have a hand capable of defending vs villain's raise makes it even less easy for villain to 'exploit' you by raising your cbet with air.
Added to this, villain has seen you cbet into a 'protected pot' (4 players with at least one of them likely to be a weak player) and has still chosen to raise your cbet. Seems a pretty strong line to me. Fold and be happy about it. Title: Re: Line check Post by: cambridgealex on December 20, 2012, 08:03:53 PM You are not exploitable if you fold here. You have a load of stronger hands in your range so it is not as if villain can go round recklessly raising your cbets with impunity. AA/AK/AQ/77/66/76s/A7s/A6s (plus some FDs, OESDs, pair plus FD etc) are all in your preflop range, as is AJ with a BDFD. Your exact hand is pretty far down the bottom of your range, especially considering you are not cbetting your entire range on this board multiway. So forget thinking stuff like "it is so exploitable if I fold". Moreover, the responsibility for defending against flop bluff raises does not purely fall on you... the fact that the UTG limper will sometimes have a hand capable of defending vs villain's raise makes it even less easy for villain to 'exploit' you by raising your cbet with air. Added to this, villain has seen you cbet into a 'protected pot' (4 players with at least one of them likely to be a weak player) and has still chosen to raise your cbet. Seems a pretty strong line to me. Fold and be happy about it. he talks a good game, but can he actually play one...tonight, we will find out :D Title: Re: Line check Post by: Honeybadger on December 20, 2012, 08:55:11 PM he talks a good game, but can he actually play one...tonight, we will find out :D Nah, not so much. I'm just hoping to bestow some big equity beats. Title: Re: Line check Post by: BALOTELLI9O on December 26, 2012, 09:59:56 PM Not sure I want to play a big pot with AJ here. You cbet into 3 people and get check raised with with yourself and another player still to act. Your line looks strong and his looks even stronger. Feel pretty good about folding here.
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