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Title: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: jgcblack on December 25, 2012, 09:14:08 PM
I'm normally pretty good with self managing my pc and have a reasonable grasp of google.

But I've had a problem with my 'new PC' since the day I got it.  I overuse it.

By this I mean I have 3x 24 inch monitors and I fill them up, most if not all the time I have 3 or 4 firefox windows open with multiple tabs in each, often a bunch of youtube clips, facebook, hotmail and all sorts of other random internet rubbish (yes yes, that too).

However my 8Gb of RAM which I thought would be more than plenty, will be fine upon startup... but after a few hours.. or if i leave the PC on overnight - it will get up to 5/6Gb in use and then stay there..  Even if I close down everything and every unnecessary background program, it remains at high usage and quickly then gets to max and starts to error, in the past it even BSOD'd but I've stopped that happening now.

My question/ problem/ want is to find a way to 'clear down'/ 'clean' the RAM whilst the PC is in use so that I get back to the startup status.

I've looked online and found a bunch of small freeware programs that claim to do this, but with task manager and the PC performance monitor up I see no difference and the computer only goes back to a usable and workable state after a reboot.
Clearly this is only a #firstworldproblem and not really a major issue, but it is a pain in the ass and I would rather just be able to wipe the RAM clean if possible.


Tips, clues, solutions, ideas???

ty


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: PizzicatoXev on December 25, 2012, 09:32:40 PM
What operating system you use?


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: kinboshi on December 25, 2012, 09:54:24 PM
Firefox will use up your memory. When that happens, restart FFor reboot the PC.


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: jgcblack on December 25, 2012, 09:57:49 PM
Firefox will use up your memory. When that happens, restart FFor reboot the PC.

I use Windows 7 and restarting firefox doesn't reset the RAM usage.  'Idle' is still at well over 4Gb which is clearly ludicrous.


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: Skippy on December 25, 2012, 10:08:54 PM
(I think) You have to be a bit careful when closing Firefox, even if you close all the windows I'm not sure it goes away. Try closing it fully by clicking on the orange Firefox tab and clicking on "Exit".


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: doubleup on December 25, 2012, 10:13:29 PM
task manager will show what is using ram - click on the memory column in the processes tab (to the right of cpu) and it will bring the heavy users to the top


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: Marky147 on December 25, 2012, 10:20:26 PM
Just checked mine because I have loads of Firefox windows open too and it was taking up 1.2gb of  RAM.


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: AndrewT on December 25, 2012, 11:45:24 PM
If you have 8GB of RAM and are only using 5 or 6GB then the problem is what now?


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: rfgqqabc on December 25, 2012, 11:45:47 PM
Yeah firefox has a problem with RAM usage, try ending the process in task manager and load it up again. Or just get chrome?


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: jgcblack on December 26, 2012, 10:31:56 PM
If you have 8GB of RAM and are only using 5 or 6GB then the problem is what now?

That between 4-7Gb of 'idle' usage is clearly ridiculous and not real. Something is holding onto the RAM usage instead of letting it go and so when i have the PC this high when idle, i can't then start a session of poker with hem, TN, PS, stars n everything else because then it goes over 7Gb usage and the PC grinds to a halt @ 7Gb.

Yeah firefox has a problem with RAM usage, try ending the process in task manager and load it up again. Or just get chrome?

Chrome ok? Never used it...
[ ] recommended?



Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: rfgqqabc on December 26, 2012, 10:35:48 PM
I use it having been a Firefox user for years. Really like it.


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: zerofive on December 27, 2012, 11:37:22 AM
Wouldn't recommend Chrome instead of Firefox.

Would recommend CCleaner, it clears up temporary/unused files etc and fixes registry issues. Download legally for free right here --> http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: Boba Fett on December 27, 2012, 03:40:39 PM
 What's wrong with just rebooting every few days? I thought this was pretty standard?  There is a tech forum called seven forum which I've used before. I think the posters can be trusted and give good quick advice


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: kinboshi on December 27, 2012, 06:01:25 PM
What's wrong with just rebooting every few days? I thought this was pretty standard?  There is a tech forum called seven forum which I've used before. I think the posters can be trusted and give good quick advice

Most Windows computers need to be rebooted on a daily basis. 


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: EvilPie on December 27, 2012, 06:50:24 PM
What's wrong with just rebooting every few days? I thought this was pretty standard?  There is a tech forum called seven forum which I've used before. I think the posters can be trusted and give good quick advice

Most Windows computers need to be rebooted on a daily basis. 

Mine doesn't. Luckily it crashes every few days thus saving me the bother.


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: Jon MW on December 27, 2012, 06:59:48 PM
What's wrong with just rebooting every few days? I thought this was pretty standard?  There is a tech forum called seven forum which I've used before. I think the posters can be trusted and give good quick advice

Most Windows computers need to be rebooted on a daily basis. 

I was going to say - in what way 'needed'?

Our work computers tend to get rebooted when a windows update forces them too - that might be quite regular but it's a long way from daily.


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: EvilPie on December 27, 2012, 08:09:44 PM
Can you show us what you're using?

Press ctrl + ALT + delete and select task manager.

Click the 'processes' tab

Click 'Memory' tab to list the processes in order of most memory use.

Take a screen shot and post it on here.






Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 08:11:59 PM
Can you show us what you're using?

Press ctrl + ALT + delete and select task manager.

Click the 'processes' tab

Click 'Memory' tab to list the processes in order of most memory use.

Take a screen shot and post it on here.






Matt "porn hunter" Russell


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: kinboshi on January 03, 2013, 08:01:24 AM
What's wrong with just rebooting every few days? I thought this was pretty standard?  There is a tech forum called seven forum which I've used before. I think the posters can be trusted and give good quick advice

Most Windows computers need to be rebooted on a daily basis. 

I was going to say - in what way 'needed'?

Our work computers tend to get rebooted when a windows update forces them too - that might be quite regular but it's a long way from daily.


If you're using memory-intensive programs, such as Firefox, graphics packages, large files in Office, etc., then Windows is notoriously bad at freeing up the memory.

If you're not using too much memory, then you can get away without reboots, but otherwise you're going to improve the computer's performance appreciably by rebooting it after a long,memory-intensive session. 


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: david3103 on January 03, 2013, 08:03:11 AM
HEM may be the culprit.


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: Jon MW on January 03, 2013, 12:28:36 PM
What's wrong with just rebooting every few days? I thought this was pretty standard?  There is a tech forum called seven forum which I've used before. I think the posters can be trusted and give good quick advice

Most Windows computers need to be rebooted on a daily basis. 

I was going to say - in what way 'needed'?

Our work computers tend to get rebooted when a windows update forces them too - that might be quite regular but it's a long way from daily.


If you're using memory-intensive programs, such as Firefox, graphics packages, large files in Office, etc., then Windows is notoriously bad at freeing up the memory.

If you're not using too much memory, then you can get away without reboots, but otherwise you're going to improve the computer's performance appreciably by rebooting it after a long,memory-intensive session. 

lol, Chrome instead of Firefox and the addition of HTML editors and that would basically describe my work usage.

The memory does get clogged up - but you'd have to be doing absolutely masses to 'need' a daily reboot. I'd have thought most people with averagely high usage of memory-intensive programs would be fine with a weekly reboot.


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: kinboshi on January 03, 2013, 12:38:33 PM
Hope you don't get Chrome to save your passwords ;)


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: technolog on January 03, 2013, 12:47:48 PM
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Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: Jon MW on January 03, 2013, 12:53:36 PM
it's all perfectly safe - I save my bookmarks with the user name and password appended so I don't forget them  ;D


Title: Re: PC skills - RAM overload
Post by: jgcblack on January 07, 2013, 09:15:22 AM
Hope you don't get Chrome to save your passwords ;)

Problem??

I use HEM, table ninja, YouTube, stars, dtd client, and a few other bits n bobs.

But its the 'post session' status of still using 5Gb of the 8 available that confuses me.  I have more than once, closed down everything and checked task manager to find only <1.5Gb of accountable programs.  However 4/5/6Gb are in use.

Its like I need a way to 'flush' the RAM....???


because of the restarting, im toying with the idea of a tiny SSD just for boot up/ reboot.
Thoughts?