Title: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: david3103 on December 28, 2012, 10:15:12 AM Is this at all possible?
I play on Pokerstars, and to their best customers, they give around 70% of the fees back to you as a way to reward loyalty. In one calendar year, the current record is roughly $550k in fees, (of which they got around $390k back.) Next year, I plan to pay $1.45m in fees and get one million dollars back. To do so, I will make something in the area of 10 million poker decisions in a year. Blogged here in a marathon post that goes into a lot of detail. http://www.alexwice.com/search?updated-max=2012-12-28T01:29:00-05:00&max-results=1 on 2+2 also http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/174/poker-goals-challenges/millionclub-aint-cheese-if-its-less-than-mil-1281937/ Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: outragous76 on December 28, 2012, 10:18:58 AM "The truth is, money is irrelevant to me"
I'm gonna say yes Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: The Camel on December 28, 2012, 10:20:32 AM Dick.
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: SuuPRlim on December 28, 2012, 11:29:22 AM that blog post reads so badly imo, but the 2+2 thread he comes across ok i think.
I'm not being funny I can't think of anything worse, if someone offered to stake me for the games on a 10% freeroll and I get to keep 100% of the rakeback on the proviso I rake $1.45m I'm not actually convinced I'd wanna do it lol its horrific. Without being harsh he must have a some social/pshy issues as he's assumably comfortably off(?) if he's rolled for a $100k downswing and he's undisputedly a winner in these games pre-rb then why on earth would you want to move back to your parents house and lock yourself away for a year? I don't think it's unreasonable to say he could play 1/4 of the volume and make $200k in a year whilst actually having some semblence of a life. I think there is more to this than meets the eye personally... Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: JK on December 28, 2012, 11:56:31 AM It seems like itll be soul destroying. Iv spoken to people who have SNE in the past and they say thats bad enough.
Honestly, I cant think of much Id rather do less Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: snoopy1239 on December 28, 2012, 01:31:05 PM There's more to poker than life.
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: BALOTELLI9O on December 28, 2012, 03:03:29 PM I have played with Awice a fair bit. He wasn't too great earlier in the year! I know he was mass tabling the $30 games with not much success at all, but he has improved hugely since then. A student of mine is playing him a lot in the high stakes hypers and he's now one of the best regs.
His mass tabling abilities are pretty insane, so I really wouldn't rule this out! Will be keeping an eye on this one for sure. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: bergeroo on December 28, 2012, 03:40:58 PM Well I presume he will get sponsorship with Stars at the end of it!
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: LonOhRay on December 28, 2012, 04:44:42 PM A friend is doing the same thing but hasn't 2+2/officially released his blog yet. - Going for first SNE and all the records along the way.
He's so motivated it's ridic. I'm sure they're both going to make it but he will be playing all the 1k and 3ks around Scoop/Wcoop to make it a bit easier. Good luck to them both, I know for sure I couldn't do any part of it atm. Who wants to grind that hard for a milli though, just play some live birds and have fun travelling along the way :) Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: BALOTELLI9O on December 28, 2012, 08:09:37 PM It wouldnt be B3RTstare would it?
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: scotty77 on December 28, 2012, 09:06:47 PM Wow
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: shipitonetime on December 29, 2012, 01:53:51 AM Lol sng rb pros
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: The Camel on December 29, 2012, 01:58:08 AM Well I presume he will get sponsorship with Stars at the end of it! And how much would you think that's worth? Giving up over 1% of your life for the *possibility* of making $1m. Can't think of anything worse. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: skolsuper on December 29, 2012, 04:06:22 AM I like that blog post, and how he comes across in the few paragraphs of the 2+2 post I skimmed, good luck to the guy.
@Camel, it's odd that you don't respect his drive, would you say the same about Bradley Wiggins for example? He's given up his life to pedal a bike for a few quid, but most people (myself included) seem to have the utmost respect for him. It's madness if you think about it. This is the same thing I think. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: Graham C on December 29, 2012, 11:16:25 AM Good luck to him I say. If I had an opportunity to work really hard for a year but at the end be a millionaire (or close to it), I think I'd jump at the chance. I know it'd be different for me as he's used to the high stakes and is probably rolled and living the life already, but I'd never have to work again.
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: kukushkin88 on December 29, 2012, 01:08:22 PM I like that blog post, and how he comes across in the few paragraphs of the 2+2 post I skimmed, good luck to the guy. @Camel, it's odd that you don't respect his drive, would you say the same about Bradley Wiggins for example? He's given up his life to pedal a bike for a few quid, but most people (myself included) seem to have the utmost respect for him. It's madness if you think about it. This is the same thing I think. Do you think Wiggins primary motivation for what he does is the money? Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: The Camel on December 29, 2012, 01:18:28 PM I like that blog post, and how he comes across in the few paragraphs of the 2+2 post I skimmed, good luck to the guy. @Camel, it's odd that you don't respect his drive, would you say the same about Bradley Wiggins for example? He's given up his life to pedal a bike for a few quid, but most people (myself included) seem to have the utmost respect for him. It's madness if you think about it. This is the same thing I think. I don't find any fundamental merit in playing loads of poker. I play online poker purely to try and make a living. Would you be impressed if an accountant or a civil servant did a record amount of overtime in order to receive the highest take home wages? To compare a geezer playing loads of poker with a world class athlete is a huge leap of logic imo. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: SuuPRlim on December 29, 2012, 01:42:48 PM Regardless of how worthwhile we deem the activity I don't think anyone could claim it wouldn't be an excellent achievement if he were to pull it off. Personally I think what he's doing is bad for him and I feel pretty strongly he has prolly got a lot of social anxiety issues, it'd certainly be a lot healthier to work on that side of his life, and not do this, but he's made the decision to do this so who I am to say you're doing the wrong thing with your life.
I hope he does it, won't bother me too much if he doesn't but sure good luck to the guy why not. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: EvilPie on December 29, 2012, 01:49:58 PM I like that blog post, and how he comes across in the few paragraphs of the 2+2 post I skimmed, good luck to the guy. @Camel, it's odd that you don't respect his drive, would you say the same about Bradley Wiggins for example? He's given up his life to pedal a bike for a few quid, but most people (myself included) seem to have the utmost respect for him. It's madness if you think about it. This is the same thing I think. I don't find any fundamental merit in playing loads of poker. I play online poker purely to try and make a living. Would you be impressed if an accountant or a civil servant did a record amount of overtime in order to receive the highest take home wages? To compare a geezer playing loads of poker with a world class athlete is a huge leap of logic imo. I don't find any fundamental merit in riding a bike for hours on end. To me it seems completely pointless just to try to prove you're the best at it. I don't think this is just about the money. Sure the guy will get a whole heap of it but he'll also achieve something that nobody else has ever done. Isn't that in some way impressive? Think I'm with Keys on this one but as a non sports lover I guess I would be. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: snoopy1239 on December 29, 2012, 03:23:39 PM Must be nice being PokerStars.
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: bergeroo on December 29, 2012, 03:49:31 PM Two players competing to pay the most rake! I'm sure they are both good players, but is paying the most rake impressive?
You can't really compare it to Bradley Wiggins. Wiggins would be more comparable to someone who plays highstakes cash games or someone like Dan Smith who has won loads in MTTs this year, or Greg Merson. Wice would be more comparable to the guy who cycled the most miles in 2012. I wonder who that is exactly? Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: SuuPRlim on December 29, 2012, 07:11:33 PM Wice would be more comparable to the guy who cycled the most miles in 2012. I wonder who that is exactly? Boris Johnson? Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: The Camel on December 29, 2012, 09:49:10 PM Wice would be more comparable to the guy who cycled the most miles in 2012. I wonder who that is exactly? Boris Johnson? See, a complete dick. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: Amatay on December 30, 2012, 08:50:04 AM Agree with Keys and Matt on this one i think. You could make all kinds of comparisons if you think about it.
Well I presume he will get sponsorship with Stars at the end of it! And how much would you think that's worth? Giving up over 1% of your life for the *possibility* of making $1m. Can't think of anything worse. I can't think of anything worse than all the millions of people who go to work everyday for hrs in jobs they abso HATE for a huge % of there life time. Granted some might have 'no' choice. Although most do imo. Also, what about all the 'idiots' who spend countless hrs 'wasting' there time on Forums etc :) The Camel Total Time Spent Online: 179 days, 2 hours and 44 minutes. Some people might argue because its fun or/and in other cases like the Brad Wiggins example interesting, great achievement etc I guess everyone is guilty of investing large chunks of their life in something that other views as pointless, dumb etc Having a millionaire bucks could be alot of fun too if it means sacrificing a solid year of your life no? Unless maybe the dangers/risks involved fk you up maybes? Oh, and i thought the blog post was good tbh. Quite thought provoking too. gl to the fish Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: The Camel on December 30, 2012, 01:35:57 PM Agree with Keys and Matt on this one i think. You could make all kinds of comparisons if you think about it. Well I presume he will get sponsorship with Stars at the end of it! And how much would you think that's worth? Giving up over 1% of your life for the *possibility* of making $1m. Can't think of anything worse. I can't think of anything worse than all the millions of people who go to work everyday for hrs in jobs they abso HATE for a huge % of there life time. Granted some might have 'no' choice. Although most do imo. Also, what about all the 'idiots' who spend countless hrs 'wasting' there time on Forums etc :) The Camel Total Time Spent Online: 179 days, 2 hours and 44 minutes. Some people might argue because its fun or/and in other cases like the Brad Wiggins example interesting, great achievement etc I guess everyone is guilty of investing large chunks of their life in something that other views as pointless, dumb etc Having a millionaire bucks could be alot of fun too if it means sacrificing a solid year of your life no? Unless maybe the dangers/risks involved fk you up maybes? Oh, and i thought the blog post was good tbh. Quite thought provoking too. gl to the fish I'm actually surprised it's as little as that. Spread over 7 years, 179 days isn't actually that much. Roughly 600 hours per year, much of that with the forum open on the task bar, but not being browsed. I don't think playing an insane amount of hours could be described as "fun" by anyone. I doubt even the guy himself would imagine he'll enjoy it. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: jezza777 on December 30, 2012, 02:51:53 PM "The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time" fair play to the guy , hope he does it.
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: Boba Fett on December 30, 2012, 02:56:49 PM I'd absolutely sacrifice a year of my life for a significant amount of money. Doesn't sound like much fun but would make the rest of his life much easier
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: The Camel on December 30, 2012, 03:43:02 PM I'd absolutely sacrifice a year of my life for a significant amount of money. Doesn't sound like much fun but would make the rest of his life much easier You say that as a young man. I'm not THAT old, and already I cherish every day. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: mondatoo on December 30, 2012, 06:56:10 PM I'd absolutely sacrifice a year of my life for a significant amount of money. Doesn't sound like much fun but would make the rest of his life much easier You say that as a young man. I'm not THAT old, and already I cherish every day. I'm same age as Boba, ish, and wouldn't give up a year of my life to do this. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: Amatay on January 02, 2013, 10:15:50 PM Awice has made supernova already, in just over 39 hours to become the fastest ever to reach this level. He's heavily backed to break all SNE records this year.
Pretty sick. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: titaniumbean on January 02, 2013, 10:17:45 PM saw the top leaderboard of vpp earners, it's an absolute farce how these people do it. sne in such a short time must be so mind numbing it's untrue.
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: BorntoBubble on January 02, 2013, 10:56:23 PM Awice has made supernova already, in just over 39 hours to become the fastest ever to reach this level. He's heavily backed to break all SNE records this year. Pretty sick. unreal if he does SNE in under a month! which he is on track for at the minute which is crazy! Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: Simon Galloway on January 02, 2013, 11:14:59 PM 'A lifetime serving one machine is 10 times worse than prison.' ~ Joe Strummer.
He could have thought about SNE runs 30 years ago tho and added in some lyrics about a day for Supernova... Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: rfgqqabc on January 02, 2013, 11:39:21 PM The drive, determination and skill is truly remarkable. Just seems to be wasted on poker/SNE grinding.
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: Graham C on January 02, 2013, 11:50:04 PM Sheeet, SN already? I struggle to make gold in a month!
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: mondatoo on January 03, 2013, 01:30:46 AM Sheeet, SN already? I struggle to make gold in a month! He was 50 tabling hypers lol, and when I did a little research into these games recently I was told that 8 tabling hypers was similar to 24 tabling 180s . Does not compute. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: LonOhRay on January 03, 2013, 07:13:53 AM MouldyOnions is other guy, mentioned in Awice.s thread. He has his own self titled website and twitter but yet to post on 2+2 I believe, no days off till SNE too sick
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: Graham C on January 03, 2013, 09:26:19 AM Sheeet, SN already? I struggle to make gold in a month! He was 50 tabling hypers lol, and when I did a little research into these games recently I was told that 8 tabling hypers was similar to 24 tabling 180s . Does not compute. Come on Mond, put some effort in ;) Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: smurf on January 03, 2013, 09:49:31 AM Am I reading it right???
Pokerstars fees are roughly 10% which means he needs to turnover $14.5m to achieve it??? Obviously he doesn't need that amount as inevitably there will be wins. And to not be doing it for the money as it means nothing to him - it seems a tad odd to me. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: LonOhRay on January 03, 2013, 03:15:32 PM Am I reading it right??? Pokerstars fees are roughly 10% which means he needs to turnover $14.5m to achieve it??? Obviously he doesn't need that amount as inevitably there will be wins. And to not be doing it for the money as it means nothing to him - it seems a tad odd to me. 200 hypers are ~193.5 + $6.50 rake i believe, so a little more haha Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: LeedsRhodesy on January 03, 2013, 07:51:06 PM Alex "AWice" Wice made PokerStars' VIP Club Supernova status in less than 40 hours.
http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/2013/alex-awice-wice-blazes-to-first-2013-sup-125454.html?source=11441987 Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: BorntoBubble on January 03, 2013, 08:05:59 PM I bet pokerstars are licking there lips! nice little bonus for them from the figures i have heard mentioned they will make pokerstars around $1500 a day clear profit after rakeback etc! In these early days while they are going crazy it is probably much more than this!
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: snoopy1239 on January 03, 2013, 08:07:43 PM I bet pokerstars are licking there lips! nice little bonus for them from the figures i have heard mentioned they will make pokerstars around $1500 a day clear profit after rakeback etc! In these early days while they are going crazy it is probably much more than this! Don't forget the free advertising. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: Amatay on January 03, 2013, 08:08:38 PM Sheeet, SN already? I struggle to make gold in a month! He was 50 tabling hypers lol, and when I did a little research into these games recently I was told that 8 tabling hypers was similar to 24 tabling 180s . Does not compute. Come on Mond, put some effort in ;) haha, Slacker mate Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: smashedagain on January 03, 2013, 08:16:30 PM Anyone know who mouldy onions is please?
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: mondatoo on January 03, 2013, 08:34:42 PM Anyone know who mouldy onions is please? https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mouldy+onions&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: smashedagain on January 03, 2013, 09:31:21 PM Anyone know who mouldy onions is please? https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mouldy+onions&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: rfgqqabc on January 05, 2013, 01:49:21 AM First SNE elite gets a day of their choosing to be double fpp and vpp. Presuming these guys have the rolls to grind wcoop day before main/main day, they could rake a sick amount of fpps etc, wouldn't they even touch 160% rakeback? Alex and Mouldy both did 40 hour plus straight sessions in race to first so surely they could do 24 hour straight. Jorj95 got 100k vpp in one day playing those sats i think, so if he did say a 16 hour sessions, these guys could earn 300kvpp in a day, maybe more if they were smart and paid other regs x% a game to play. Could see an obscene day.
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: Graham C on January 06, 2013, 12:39:55 AM $50k down according to his post earlier today, scary stuff http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=36508563&postcount=419
Wonder how MouldyOnions is getting on Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: The Camel on January 06, 2013, 01:05:30 AM First SNE elite gets a day of their choosing to be double fpp and vpp. Presuming these guys have the rolls to grind wcoop day before main/main day, they could rake a sick amount of fpps etc, wouldn't they even touch 160% rakeback? Alex and Mouldy both did 40 hour plus straight sessions in race to first so surely they could do 24 hour straight. Jorj95 got 100k vpp in one day playing those sats i think, so if he did say a 16 hour sessions, these guys could earn 300kvpp in a day, maybe more if they were smart and paid other regs x% a game to play. Could see an obscene day. The year I made SNE they had a whole week of double vpp FOR EVERYONE! Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: rfgqqabc on January 06, 2013, 02:46:06 AM They'd lose a fortune doing that now. I'm guessing the vpp grinding wasn't quite as optimized then. Sne is some achievement!
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: The Camel on January 06, 2013, 05:11:23 AM They'd lose a fortune doing that now. I'm guessing the vpp grinding wasn't quite as optimized then. Sne is some achievement! jorj had already made sne at that point. He was playing 5k hu sngs as flips with 140% rakeback :) Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: MC on January 06, 2013, 11:28:55 AM Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: snoopy1239 on January 06, 2013, 11:29:00 AM Do Pokerstars give cash rakebacks or offer it in another form?
Anyone know what his rakeback might be so far? Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: MC on January 06, 2013, 11:49:45 AM Do Pokerstars give cash rakebacks or offer it in another form? Anyone know what his rakeback might be so far? They are both SNE so they get effectively ~65% rakeback but will become more if they get multiple time SNE Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: MC on January 22, 2013, 11:32:12 AM Stars have added $300 and $500 6-max hypers now
;starwars; Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: mondatoo on January 22, 2013, 11:41:00 AM So com, Lewis who posted on here is playing the 30 hypers, TN include a 300 in his 30 filter, he's like shit wtf is going on, obv binks, wal :)
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: MC on January 22, 2013, 08:31:29 PM So funny, Lewis (who posted on here) is currently playing $30 hyper-turbo 6-max SNGs. Unfortunately, the poker software "Tableninja" included the new $300 SNGs in the filter he uses for $30 games by mistake. When it loaded up he was unsure what was happening, but obviously he was lucky enough to win. What a life. Is English actually your first language? ^^Read okay to me :P Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: FUN4FRASER on January 22, 2013, 08:41:28 PM So com, Lewis who posted on here is playing the 30 hypers, TN include a 300 in his 30 filter, he's like shit wtf is going on, obv binks, wal :) Is English actually your first language? Apologies Ray..... but I did raise a smile :) Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: Marky147 on January 22, 2013, 08:46:47 PM So com, Lewis who posted on here is playing the 30 hypers, TN include a 300 in his 30 filter, he's like shit wtf is going on, obv binks, wal :) I'll have a go and I'm not even fully versed in grinder lingo... Lewis plays 30 hyperturbos, Table Ninja included a $300 comp in the $30 filter accidentally and he won it? Easier than real life, so I've heard ;) Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: mondatoo on January 22, 2013, 08:48:03 PM So com, Lewis who posted on here is playing the 30 hypers, TN include a 300 in his 30 filter, he's like shit wtf is going on, obv binks, wal :) I'll have a go and I'm not even fully versed in grinder lingo... Lewis plays 30 hyperturbos, Table Ninja included a $300 comp in the $30 filter accidentally and he won it? Easier than real life, so I've heard ;) Haha, this Ldo :) Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: titaniumbean on January 22, 2013, 09:10:19 PM So com, Lewis who posted on here is playing the 30 hypers, TN include a 300 in his 30 filter, he's like shit wtf is going on, obv binks, wal :) Is English actually your first language? rofl try meeting ray in person.... Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: The Camel on March 17, 2013, 09:57:07 PM Have they given up this ridic charade?
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: rfgqqabc on March 17, 2013, 10:03:03 PM Have they given up this ridic charade? Alex made SNE first and MouldyOnions is still in 2nd. http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/community/leaderboard/ If you view this today their will be two IOM accounts with 5m VPPs. Wonder whats coming here... Stars must think someone will make it. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: The Camel on March 17, 2013, 11:45:36 PM Have they given up this ridic charade? Alex made SNE first and MouldyOnions is still in 2nd. http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/community/leaderboard/ If you view this today their will be two IOM accounts with 5m VPPs. Wonder whats coming here... Stars must think someone will make it. MouldyOnions hasn't tweeted in ages and his site has gone down. I guess he has hit a downswing. Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: rfgqqabc on March 19, 2013, 07:37:06 AM Have they given up this ridic charade? Alex made SNE first and MouldyOnions is still in 2nd. http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/community/leaderboard/ If you view this today their will be two IOM accounts with 5m VPPs. Wonder whats coming here... Stars must think someone will make it. MouldyOnions hasn't tweeted in ages and his site has gone down. I guess he has hit a downswing. He's backed by one of the biggest online stables. They have umpteen high/mid stake horses so that won't affect him. Gone to program and doesn't want a stars deal hence no tweeting and not really playing Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: Oxford_HRV on March 19, 2013, 11:30:41 AM this guy is a hero, i read his blog a couple months back and i loved it.
Title: Re: Alex Wice Challenge Post by: Rob on March 19, 2013, 07:46:15 PM Don't like the guy, full stop. Arrogant, cocky, and very rude.
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