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Title: River line.
Post by: tight4better on December 28, 2012, 04:40:27 PM
Gala 50/1 we've just lost a big one with QQ vs KK pre, made a set but didn't win, no biggie but we're currently stuck £125 and probably look a little steamed.

Table is pretty standard, and there's one guy who's bought in for over the max but no-one has said anything because he looks "new to the game"

Anyway, we're OTB with  Aspades Qs and facing 3 limpers, we cover all villains.

Make it £8, Villain who has £120 behind peels out of bb, rest of limpers call. Should be noted villain gives me no respect due to past hands we've played and is currently in the hole for ~£250.

Flop (£40.50)  4s 3s 9c

Villain donks for £15, rest fold, we call.

Turn (£70.50)  Tc

He checks, we £26. He calls (Should I just check?)

River (£122.50)  Qh

He checks, you?


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: TL900 on December 28, 2012, 04:42:39 PM
£50/call otf, if he peels rip any turn.

As played jam river


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: stato_1 on December 28, 2012, 04:48:45 PM
£50/call otf, if he peels rip any turn.

As played jam river

winner


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: Honeybadger on December 28, 2012, 07:19:44 PM
£50/call otf, if he peels rip any turn.

As played jam river

Completely agree with this.

Looking at the recent hands you (OP I mean) have posted you seem to be a little unnerved when facing donk bets, and this perhaps leads to you playing overly passively in these situations. This might be something for you to be aware of, and examine in your game.


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: cambridgealex on December 28, 2012, 07:43:40 PM
all sorted for you ^


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: Honeybadger on December 28, 2012, 07:48:38 PM
all sorted for you ^

What you mean by this Alex? You being sarcy?


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: cambridgealex on December 28, 2012, 08:07:24 PM
No I meant that between you and TL you'd covered all the angles.

Fair assumption though, I am being sarcastic most of the time.

Edit: just reread, not clear at all what I meant!


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: tight4better on December 28, 2012, 08:36:38 PM
Looking at the recent hands you (OP I mean) have posted you seem to be a little unnerved when facing donk bets, and this perhaps leads to you playing overly passively in these situations. This might be something for you to be aware of, and examine in your game.

I would say it's an issue with my game, though I don't really have anyone I can discuss it with besides on here. I don't really speak to anyone about strategy just because of the people I play with are usually degenning on roulette or whatever :)

Cheers TL btw, helped in all 3 threads.

Ok so it's results time. Highlight for the outcome.


We jammed, he called with 34o


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: SuuPRlim on December 28, 2012, 08:55:37 PM
£50/call otf, if he peels rip any turn.

As played jam river

Completely agree with this.

Looking at the recent hands you (OP I mean) have posted you seem to be a little unnerved when facing donk bets, and this perhaps leads to you playing overly passively in these situations. This might be something for you to be aware of, and examine in your game.

all sorted for you ^

raise/call otf everytime, lots of FE and you have terrific equity now, don't waste it you might not have it OTT.


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: tight4better on December 28, 2012, 08:58:01 PM

raise/call otf everytime, lots of FE and you have terrific equity now, don't waste it you might not have it OTT.

I don't expect him to raise if I make it £50 on the flop, I honestly expect him to peel 99%.

edit: though I guess I just jam the turn like TL said if he does that.


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: Honeybadger on December 28, 2012, 09:05:48 PM
Can't see results in any of the three hands you posted. I highlighted the post but just see a little line...


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: tight4better on December 28, 2012, 09:16:05 PM
Can't see results in any of the three hands you posted. I highlighted the post but just see a little line...


highlight and copy into notepad or just right click it ;) I made it tiny font for people that don't want to see.


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: SuuPRlim on December 28, 2012, 10:10:43 PM

raise/call otf everytime, lots of FE and you have terrific equity now, don't waste it you might not have it OTT.

I don't expect him to raise if I make it £50 on the flop, I honestly expect him to peel 99%.

edit: though I guess I just jam the turn like TL said if he does that.

Just keep the general rule for poker - when you have a really good hand raise, and then go from there :)


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: zerofive on December 28, 2012, 10:22:17 PM
I can't add anything to this thread that hasn't already been written, but I would like to underline everything.


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: gouty on December 28, 2012, 10:35:59 PM
£50/call otf, if he peels rip any turn.

As played jam river

Completely agree with this.

Looking at the recent hands you (OP I mean) have posted you seem to be a little unnerved when facing donk bets, and this perhaps leads to you playing overly passively in these situations. This might be something for you to be aware of, and examine in your game.


I must admit I seem to having problems facing donk bets not so much in cash but live tourneys . Ukipt Bristol being a prime example. I really try to control the size of the pot early on and these fkn donk bets are my nemesis. Using OPs hand here as an example what range of hands would you put opponent on and if you we're 100 bb deep in a tourney what is your plan?



Title: Re: River line.
Post by: Sulphur man on December 29, 2012, 12:04:57 AM
I can't add anything to this thread that hasn't already been written, but I would like to underline everything.
OP states possibly look a little steamed. See no harm here before or after the hand with taking
a short break from the game. Use the restroom splash some water on you're face. Nip outside take a gulp of
fresh air or have a cigarette. Anything just to regain focus. Maybe order some food.

Then return and crush some fishbowl's.


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: shipitonetime on December 29, 2012, 05:29:53 AM
Agree with the advice itt but as played u should def be betting bigger OTT, 26 is too small, bet at least 35 imo. Then shove river.


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: tight4better on December 29, 2012, 08:41:21 AM
I can't add anything to this thread that hasn't already been written, but I would like to underline everything.
OP states possibly look a little steamed. See no harm here before or after the hand with taking
a short break from the game. Use the restroom splash some water on you're face. Nip outside take a gulp of
fresh air or have a cigarette. Anything just to regain focus. Maybe order some food.

Took a break after this hand which I've been doing a lot lately when I lose decent sized pots or think I've played a hand badly.


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: cambridgealex on December 29, 2012, 10:43:11 AM
I can't add anything to this thread that hasn't already been written, but I would like to underline everything.
OP states possibly look a little steamed. See no harm here before or after the hand with taking
a short break from the game. Use the restroom splash some water on you're face. Nip outside take a gulp of
fresh air or have a cigarette. Anything just to regain focus. Maybe order some food.

Then return and crush some fishbowl's.

Seemed like he was just saying that he might appear steamed, so people might think he was tilted when actually he might be perfectly fine.


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: tight4better on December 29, 2012, 10:45:03 AM
I can't add anything to this thread that hasn't already been written, but I would like to underline everything.
OP states possibly look a little steamed. See no harm here before or after the hand with taking
a short break from the game. Use the restroom splash some water on you're face. Nip outside take a gulp of
fresh air or have a cigarette. Anything just to regain focus. Maybe order some food.

Then return and crush some fishbowl's.

Seemed like he was just saying that he might appear steamed, so people might think he was tilted when actually he might be perfectly fine.

Ye this.


Title: Re: River line.
Post by: Sulphur man on December 29, 2012, 12:30:13 PM
I can't add anything to this thread that hasn't already been written, but I would like to underline everything.
OP states possibly look a little steamed. See no harm here before or after the hand with taking
a short break from the game. Use the restroom splash some water on you're face. Nip outside take a gulp of
fresh air or have a cigarette. Anything just to regain focus. Maybe order some food.

Then return and crush some fishbowl's.

Seemed like he was just saying that he might appear steamed, so people might think he was tilted when actually he might be perfectly fine.

Ye this.
For sure. Keeping fresh during a session is a good idea though and im fully aware you both understand that.
Enjoyed the hands you posted kept me awake past bedtime last night.