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Playing in a big DC game last night. I wasnt in this pot but thought it was an interesting hand

game is full we are going to play it as the hero in the cutoff

utg limps and then a raise to 10 a few callers and we call the 10 with

 Ac 3c Kd Jd 9s

button folds and we are 5 way to the flop, pot is 54

we see a  Qs Tc 4s

limper checks pfr bets 50 station calls 50 and its on us.

limper is playing 500, pfr we are gonna call crazy agg and is playing 2k, station playing 650 we have them covered.

OK, i'm going to kick it off by saying call

Seems the most "standard" play in this situation?

No reason to do anything other than call.

Change the Tc to the Th and there is a reasonable argument for folding. Having a backdoor NFD is really good in these sort of spots.

Surely you still call though? this spot is just way better.

Folding seems really really weak and raising a bit suicidal 0 call seems like really the only play

Yeah, I still call... but there is an argument for folding, that's all. It is close.

Yep the call is standard, i just thought id take the action from the flop on.

So we call the 50 and after a huge dwell limper flats the 50 as well.

Turn card is  2d.

So board is now  Qs Tc 4s 2d

and we have   Ac 3c Kd Jd 9s

Limper checks, super agg bets 200 station flats and its on us.

Same same - call again. Pretty simple so far...

Call, river the 8h and ship all the dimez?

any concerns on the turn?

We have nut low draw which is good
Now any card that's not a spade and not on the board gives us a good hand

Well I am glad we exercised pot control this far, because I am getting uneasy now. There are a whole bunch of rivers which I ain't gonna like much.

How much are we hating the  5s for example?!

I think we're forced to call the turn bet but I'm starting to fear the worst.

A non-spade 9 would be nice to see on the river..

I am not a big fan of the hand at all remembering this is 5 card, I don't see one clean out in which we scoop and only 7 cards where we are gtd our money back the rest of the outs are not clean and we could end up making our hand and claiming 1/6 of pot

I'm not a fist-pump huge fan of this spot either, but you have miscounted the clean outs...

I think calling is again the only play here, certainly don't fold imo, and raising, again imo, is kinda suicidal as our hand won't do all that well against a hand that wants to put £2k in here, plus we're drawing to nut hands and have no pairs so no harm at all keeping the pot multi-way.

We've got a good hand

Blonde backed this man to play the PLO8 at the WSOPE a few years ago.

sorry 10 outs that get us atleast our money back
none spade king jack 9 or 8 gives us a straight which only gtd us out money back
although most likely we will make a profit on each on these
any low card we could end up calling off big river bet for 1/6th of pot
pairing the board or high spade we lose
an ace conterfites our low though could give us as little as 1/6th of pot for high
a 5 gives us the low but again we could be sharing this and we can get crippled by A36(with spades) that totally domintate our hand

there is no card in deck that gtd we will scoop the pot
unless i miss something if heads up its an easy fold IMHO
because there are 3 players in the pot its very borderline i havent worked out the equity but we dont
have that much if people are drawing to the same sort of hands we are


PLO

4 players in pot. 1 player still to act behind us.

sorry read OP on my phone thought it was 3 way

4 way we have to flat and hope that the guy behind us comes in

ok so this is where the hand starts to get fun, as most have said so far standard call on the flop, call on the turn.

Well thats what we did we call the 200, and action is on the limper behind us.

As soon as we call off the 200 he ships his remaining 450 into the pot and reopens the betting.

Super agg now ships 1400 more in and station calls off his stack.

So action is now back round on us 1400 to call, super agg still has about 400 behind. Id say their is now about 3k in the middle.

Fold now

this

Abandon ship.

i concur easy fold now

any more?

really annoying but we abso cannot continue, you're just up against a very very strong hand, what can you do :P

Sorry forgot about this. Will post finish tonight when home.

ok, so yeah again we go along with what seems to be the general consensus and fold.

As it turns out our hand is a call i think once all the cards are revealed but we dont know this during the hand obv.

So the river comes down  7d. Brings the low but bricks all the straight draws and flush draws.

So limper that jammed the turned had slow played QQ on the flop and he holds for the high. Super agg has A6 for low which scoops, he had the bare  Aspades and turned a set. Calling station had the king f/d and flopped bottom set with no real low to speak of.