|
Title: Good spot to raise/shove the river? Post by: david3103 on January 08, 2013, 04:07:16 PM I don't play much online cash - but Tilt sent me $20 to splash around with ...
Full Tilt Poker Game #31840629468: Table Swinger (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:51:32 ET - 2013/01/08 Seat 1: chillflush ($10) Seat 2: iamplr ($7.18) Seat 3: RomaFilipe ($10) Seat 4: HERO ($21.67) Seat 5: gomindan ($8.58) Seat 6: kefyras ($50.75) - VPIP19/PFR 15/AF 3.7/3Bet 9.1 gomindan posts the small blind of $0.05 kefyras posts the big blind of $0.10 The button is in seat #4 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to HERO [Kd Ac] iamplr folds HERO raises to $0.30 gomindan folds kefyras calls $0.20 *** FLOP *** [8c Tc 6c] (Total Pot: $0.65, 2 Players) kefyras checks HERO bets $0.40 kefyras calls $0.40 *** TURN *** [8c Tc 6c] [Ah] (Total Pot: $1.45, 2 Players) kefyras checks HERO bets $0.80 kefyras raises to $2.32 HERO calls $1.52 *** RIVER *** [8c Tc 6c Ah] [3d] (Total Pot: $6.09, 2 Players) kefyras bets $4.26 We've got the Ac so he can't have it... Title: Re: Good spot to raise/shove the river? Post by: outragous76 on January 08, 2013, 04:11:34 PM not after he has raised turn, no
Title: Re: Good spot to raise/shove the river? Post by: david3103 on January 08, 2013, 04:17:09 PM not after he has raised turn, no fair enough - i Title: Re: Good spot to raise/shove the river? Post by: outragous76 on January 08, 2013, 04:18:13 PM not after he has raised turn, no fair enough - i hang on, you didnt call river? I mean, Im calling, just not shoving Title: Re: Good spot to raise/shove the river? Post by: david3103 on January 08, 2013, 04:20:01 PM not after he has raised turn, no fair enough - i hang on, you didnt call river? I mean, Im calling, just not shoving i got all indecisive and left it too late to call Title: Re: Good spot to raise/shove the river? Post by: pleno1 on January 08, 2013, 06:55:48 PM turn is v close/interesting.
definitley fold the river obviously. turn is v close though. any timing tells? Title: Re: Good spot to raise/shove the river? Post by: outragous76 on January 08, 2013, 07:17:34 PM turn is v close/interesting. definitley fold the river obviously. turn is v close though. any timing tells? Not folding river at these stakes mr Leno Title: Re: Good spot to raise/shove the river? Post by: pleno1 on January 08, 2013, 07:57:52 PM turn is v close/interesting. definitley fold the river obviously. turn is v close though. any timing tells? Not folding river at these stakes mr Leno you probably haven't played these stakes very much then :) anything under nl100, especially under nl50 is stupidly nitty. even at nl100-600, c/raising the turn is probably the least used bluff line by anybody (regs/fish) if we had Ak no club it would be a SNAP fold on the turn and a SNAP fold otr. As played both are probably folds anyway, but calling turn is obv not horrendous with c. Title: Re: Good spot to raise/shove the river? Post by: muckthenuts on January 09, 2013, 08:00:42 AM Calling would be better than shoving river, but folding is definitely the best.
Title: Re: Good spot to raise/shove the river? Post by: david3103 on January 09, 2013, 09:11:34 AM turn is v close/interesting. definitley fold the river obviously. turn is v close though. any timing tells? timing tells? are they a real thing these days? none that I noticed anyway - I play onlince cash so rarely that I'm not sure I'd pick up on them even if they were there. I timed out before I'd made up my mind if maybe there was scope for a JB shove on the river, probably best that way Probably losing to some sort of two pair? Title: Re: Good spot to raise/shove the river? Post by: pleno1 on January 09, 2013, 01:35:10 PM Calling would be better than shoving river, but folding is definitely the best. i disagree with that. folding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shoving>calling i think. Title: Re: Good spot to raise/shove the river? Post by: muckthenuts on January 09, 2013, 07:18:17 PM Ok being 5bi's deep could mean he's capable of fold. Otherwise value range being repped is v strong and i doubt a bluff shove ever gets through your typical nl10 player unless you think he's bluffing, in which case we have enough sdv to call, but yeah just fold river.
Title: Re: Good spot to raise/shove the river? Post by: SuuPRlim on January 10, 2013, 01:09:36 AM yh gotta agree with pleno here calling not really an option, shove or fold but i'd be very surprised if a shove works as often as we think it does, a big problem is that he is bluffing so infrequently so such a high % of his betting range OTR has a better hand than us, and that (believe it or not) is always a dangerous spot to be bluffing in
|