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Title: Split Pots.
Post by: monitor on January 18, 2006, 04:23:02 PM
Can anybody help me on the rules of split pots in texas holdem poker.

This is what happened.

Player A,  went all in with 19,500 chips, player B and player C, call him, player B+C still had about 80,000 chips each.

Pot 1 was made,it was checked by player B+ C, on the turn, player C, check on the river then player B, went all in, thus creating pot 2, player C, folded.

Player B won pot 2 and had better cards than player A for the  pot 1  but player C  had better cards than player B.

Does player C take pot 1 as he had better cards or since he had folded from pot 2 is he out of pot 1.

Please can you help me on this as one of my mates says i should have won pot 1 and one of my mates say that i lost both pots.

 Thank`s Marcus.


Title: Re: Split Pots.
Post by: Robert HM on January 18, 2006, 04:25:54 PM
A folding player has no right to any pot.


Title: Re: Split Pots.
Post by: Rod Paradise on January 18, 2006, 04:26:03 PM
You lost both, folding at any point mucks your cards.


Title: Re: Split Pots.
Post by: ruthless1 on January 18, 2006, 04:26:35 PM
if player c folded before a show down then hes out of all the pots.


Title: Re: Split Pots.
Post by: mikkyT on January 18, 2006, 04:46:27 PM
Can anybody help me on the rules of split pots in texas holdem poker.

This is what happened.

Player A,  went all in with 19,500 chips, player B and player C, call him, player B+C still had about 80,000 chips each.

At this point, three players have a right to pot 1. This is the pot that player A is entitled to.

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Pot 1 was made,it was checked by player B+ C, on the turn, player C, check on the river then player B, went all in, thus creating pot 2, player C, folded.

At this point, a side pot would have been created had player C called. As player C folds, he loses entitlement to any pot. That is the definition of a fold.

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Player B won pot 2 and had better cards than player A for the  pot 1  but player C  had better cards than player B.

By folding his hand before the showdown, player C forfeits the right to any pot. Player C still had chips on the table, and as the game of poker is, you have to put your chips in the middle if you want to show it down.


Title: Re: Split Pots.
Post by: Triple X on January 18, 2006, 06:08:34 PM
everyone has explained it perfectly monitor.

Here B has been clever - he has isolated C to knock out A and win everything.  Had he checked it down he would have lost his chips to C.

The fun really happens when a player bluffs into 'a dry side pot' - this is normally thought of as bad ethics (some people argue that it isnt as you should be concentrating on your own game but i personally am in the camp that it usuallytho not always is bad ethics).

The idea that free checking is ganging up on the all-in player and therefore more chance of knocking him out and thinning the field.  If you bluff and actually have worse cards than A then its not too clever unless you think A isno danger even with the chips whilst C with extra chips could be deadly.

But as i said usually unless someone has a monster, side pots tend to be softly checked down