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Title: Deep stack, facing a shove
Post by: dtm75 on January 28, 2013, 10:33:07 AM
SkyPoker "roller", £110 (30k), 10,000 starting chips, MTT, 6-max.

Blinds 100,200.  No ante.  Table playing fairly tight.  Hero (viewed as a LAG I would think) sat on the button, with 12,500.  Villain (TAG as far as I can see) in the cut-off 11,500.

All fold to villain who limps, hero  Kc  Tc raises to 650, Sb and BB fold.

flop (1,600) : Kh  Td  7d

Villain donks out 800
Hero raises 2100
Villain insta all-in
Hero???




Title: Re: Deep stack, facing a shove
Post by: Doobs on January 28, 2013, 10:40:34 AM
Raise more pre.  Top 2, hence blockers to sets, drawing board means you can't fold.  Some there can be horribly nitty but others are crazy.  You always have 4 outs twice when he flips 77.  If he flips KK make a note and walk all over him from now on. 


Title: Re: Deep stack, facing a shove
Post by: TL900 on January 28, 2013, 10:50:23 AM
50p?


Title: Re: Deep stack, facing a shove
Post by: MC on January 28, 2013, 10:55:05 AM
50p?

this


Title: Re: Deep stack, facing a shove
Post by: outragous76 on January 28, 2013, 11:04:46 AM
peel flop and get it in on a non A turn


Title: Re: Deep stack, facing a shove
Post by: dtm75 on January 28, 2013, 11:32:44 AM
50p?

Que? Does 50p mean something, an action? Or have I f***ed up in my posting - not massively au fait with forum terminology?



Title: Re: Deep stack, facing a shove
Post by: outragous76 on January 28, 2013, 11:38:31 AM
50p?

Que? Does 50p mean something, an action? Or have I f***ed up in my posting - not massively au fait with forum terminology?



it means they presume this is a bad beat and that you must put 50p in the "fine jar" for telling us


Title: Re: Deep stack, facing a shove
Post by: dtm75 on January 28, 2013, 11:54:31 AM
50p?

Que? Does 50p mean something, an action? Or have I f***ed up in my posting - not massively au fait with forum terminology?



it means they presume this is a bad beat and that you must put 50p in the "fine jar" for telling us

Right, cheers.  Don't do bad beat stories, it's poker, sh*t happens. 

Is his range here considering his image : nut flush draw with the  Kd? Or  Qd  Jd or 8d  9d or 7x7x, and I'm only a slither above 50% on the best of these.  Had discounted AK (raise pre), KK (raise pre and blockers) and 10 10 (blockers)

This is a fairly big tournament for me, edge of bankroll, but I just wondered whether it's an instant snap, or whether to peel the flop etc.


Title: Re: Deep stack, facing a shove
Post by: outragous76 on January 28, 2013, 11:56:49 AM
50p?

Que? Does 50p mean something, an action? Or have I f***ed up in my posting - not massively au fait with forum terminology?



it means they presume this is a bad beat and that you must put 50p in the "fine jar" for telling us

Right, cheers.  Don't do bad beat stories, it's poker, sh*t happens. 

Is his range here considering his image : nut flush draw with the  Kd? Or  Qd  Jd or 8d  9d or 7x7x, and I'm only a slither above 50% on the best of these.  Had discounted AK (raise pre), KK (raise pre and blockers) and 10 10 (blockers)

This is a fairly big tournament for me, edge of bankroll, but I just wondered whether it's an instant snap, or whether to peel the flop etc.

hang on, you are flipping (maybe), but there is 5400 juicing the pot so what you worried about flipping for?


Title: Re: Deep stack, facing a shove
Post by: MANTIS01 on January 28, 2013, 12:05:24 PM
50p?

Que? Does 50p mean something, an action? Or have I f***ed up in my posting - not massively au fait with forum terminology?



it means they presume this is a bad beat and that you must put 50p in the "fine jar" for telling us

Right, cheers.  Don't do bad beat stories, it's poker, sh*t happens. 

Is his range here considering his image : nut flush draw with the  Kd? Or  Qd  Jd or 8d  9d or 7x7x, and I'm only a slither above 50% on the best of these.  Had discounted AK (raise pre), KK (raise pre and blockers) and 10 10 (blockers)

This is a fairly big tournament for me, edge of bankroll, but I just wondered whether it's an instant snap, or whether to peel the flop etc.

I snap called so quickly I hadn't even started reading your op


Title: Re: Deep stack, facing a shove
Post by: dtm75 on January 28, 2013, 12:09:31 PM
hang on, you are flipping (maybe), but there is 5400 juicing the pot so what you worried about flipping for?

good point, I think, given it's fairly early stages and I still have 50BBs, that it was maybe a little early for a likely flip.  Although, wtf do I want to hit, raising with K10 eh?  Just wasn't happy with the speed of the shove.

I snap called so quickly I hadn't even started reading your op

Heh, succinct. Think I'll just stop worrying about it.

Cheers


Title: Re: Deep stack, facing a shove
Post by: tikay on January 28, 2013, 12:10:23 PM
50p?

Que? Does 50p mean something, an action? Or have I f***ed up in my posting - not massively au fait with forum terminology?



Don't worry bud, things are a little different on this Forum, they are not being rude, just a little flippant. Nice flippant though. 

It's a pretty standard spot.

Villain is not forced to have a set, he can have Q-J, or two diamonds, & even if he has a set of sevens, we have outs. He could even have aces, which would be a good thing.

Get it in & cross your fingers, it is very probably a good spot.

Hope you enjoy blonde, & stick around.


Title: Re: Deep stack, facing a shove
Post by: pleno1 on January 28, 2013, 12:58:44 PM
ask your daughter who her daddy is, then call.