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Title: 3-bet shove spot Post by: VBlue on January 30, 2013, 07:45:11 PM IPoker, $5 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 100 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. BB: 3,450 (5.8 bb) UTG+1: 5,746 (9.6 bb) UTG+2: 14,239 (23.7 bb) MP1: 23,227 (38.7 bb) MP2: 9,891 (16.5 bb) MP3: 17,298 (28.8 bb) CO: 7,685 (12.8 bb) Hero (BTN): 9,958 (16.6 bb) SB: 5,550 (9.3 bb) Preflop: Hero is BTN with Tc 9c 2 folds, MP1 raises to 1,200, 3 folds, In a daily $3k which I have run pretty horribly in this year but am very comfortable in. In a min-cash position this far in. Have 3-bet this player all-in in a very similar situation from the BU and he folded. Other than that I have folded a lot and won a single-raised pot. To 3-bet again or not? Player is 33/30/9 over 47 hands. Title: Re: 3-bet shove spot Post by: MC on January 30, 2013, 07:47:45 PM Seems rather thin. He's raising into 2 small stacks in the blinds, and we don't have a tonne on fold equity.
Looks like a fold to me. Title: Re: 3-bet shove spot Post by: sedds on January 30, 2013, 07:50:43 PM yeah fold, i doubt his raising light from MP with those stacks in the blinds.
Title: Re: 3-bet shove spot Post by: buffyslayer1 on January 30, 2013, 09:10:11 PM Need more reads tbh, 47 hands is not many and it reall doesn't tell us much that his 33/30. If he was stealing 100% from late position or something then that would help, ideally I would like to know his recent history and how often he is opening from this position into players with shallower stacks.
Also T9s is a great resteal light hand. If you had ATo here people would say yeah you can shove but T9s has more equity when called versus a range of 66+ AT+ which is pretty reasonable for villain to raise/call Just because there are two shorties in the blinds doesn't mean he is not raising light (ish either) and won't fold to a shove However, since we don't have enough info fold is prob best, but versus loads of people this is a shove Title: Re: 3-bet shove spot Post by: rfgqqabc on January 31, 2013, 04:45:54 AM Need more reads tbh, 47 hands is not many and it reall doesn't tell us much that his 33/30. If he was stealing 100% from late position or something then that would help, ideally I would like to know his recent history and how often he is opening from this position into players with shallower stacks. Also T9s is a great resteal light hand. If you had ATo here people would say yeah you can shove but T9s has more equity when called versus a range of 66+ AT+ which is pretty reasonable for villain to raise/call Just because there are two shorties in the blinds doesn't mean he is not raising light (ish either) and won't fold to a shove However, since we don't have enough info fold is prob best, but versus loads of people this is a shove This factor in blockers? Seems about right but not got access to stove. Title: Re: 3-bet shove spot Post by: JK on January 31, 2013, 05:23:16 AM Seems rather thin. He's raising into 2 small stacks in the blinds, and we don't have a tonne on fold equity. Looks like a fold to me. Agree with Mr MC. Hes alot less likely to raise/fold when hes opening into a combined total of 15 bigs in the blinds. Had those stacks been 15-20, then Im tempted. Title: Re: 3-bet shove spot Post by: buffyslayer1 on February 04, 2013, 04:04:11 PM Need more reads tbh, 47 hands is not many and it reall doesn't tell us much that his 33/30. If he was stealing 100% from late position or something then that would help, ideally I would like to know his recent history and how often he is opening from this position into players with shallower stacks. Also T9s is a great resteal light hand. If you had ATo here people would say yeah you can shove but T9s has more equity when called versus a range of 66+ AT+ which is pretty reasonable for villain to raise/call Just because there are two shorties in the blinds doesn't mean he is not raising light (ish either) and won't fold to a shove However, since we don't have enough info fold is prob best, but versus loads of people this is a shove This factor in blockers? Seems about right but not got access to stove. blocker have limited impact, it changes range by a very small amount when someone if opening a wide range anyway. The amount you need someone to fold really doesnt change to much. But yeah it did factor in blockers when I did it Title: Re: 3-bet shove spot Post by: rfgqqabc on February 04, 2013, 07:42:17 PM Need more reads tbh, 47 hands is not many and it reall doesn't tell us much that his 33/30. If he was stealing 100% from late position or something then that would help, ideally I would like to know his recent history and how often he is opening from this position into players with shallower stacks. Also T9s is a great resteal light hand. If you had ATo here people would say yeah you can shove but T9s has more equity when called versus a range of 66+ AT+ which is pretty reasonable for villain to raise/call Just because there are two shorties in the blinds doesn't mean he is not raising light (ish either) and won't fold to a shove However, since we don't have enough info fold is prob best, but versus loads of people this is a shove This factor in blockers? Seems about right but not got access to stove. blocker have limited impact, it changes range by a very small amount when someone if opening a wide range anyway. The amount you need someone to fold really doesnt change to much. But yeah it did factor in blockers when I did it Title: Re: 3-bet shove spot Post by: buffyslayer1 on February 04, 2013, 08:30:16 PM Need more reads tbh, 47 hands is not many and it reall doesn't tell us much that his 33/30. If he was stealing 100% from late position or something then that would help, ideally I would like to know his recent history and how often he is opening from this position into players with shallower stacks. Also T9s is a great resteal light hand. If you had ATo here people would say yeah you can shove but T9s has more equity when called versus a range of 66+ AT+ which is pretty reasonable for villain to raise/call Just because there are two shorties in the blinds doesn't mean he is not raising light (ish either) and won't fold to a shove However, since we don't have enough info fold is prob best, but versus loads of people this is a shove This factor in blockers? Seems about right but not got access to stove. blocker have limited impact, it changes range by a very small amount when someone if opening a wide range anyway. The amount you need someone to fold really doesnt change to much. But yeah it did factor in blockers when I did it cheers dude I am the same guy. 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