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Villain 1 220k, loose ish image, has peeled EVERY open raise Of mine

Villain 2, 115k, was previously active, but since I have returned to the table I haven't seen him Play a hand circa 2-3 orbits

Hero 145k, seen as active opening pots, willing to 3 bet, and when previously at table had been v aggro

Blinds 1200/2400 300


Raise utg from V1, to 7k, v2, 3 bets to 21k from MP

Hero has JJ

The only thing I know for certain is that if we call, v1 will call every time, ( but probs jam top of his range)

We?

Has v1 shown a tendency to raise/call a lot? ie if you fold, is v1 calling? Moreover, does v2 know this?

As is often the case with JJ, I think all three options are fine. I think if v2 is decent it might be a fold here, 'cause even though his sizing is horrible, he might just be trying to maximise versus v1. If not then personally i'm 44k/folding versus v1/calling versus v2

V1 will call either/both of us

V2 ever gonna be light against v1. U can look at it both ways. Ie will he iso him wide ip? Think I like a pile here

Aren't you supposed to shove here with the battle-cry "I hate jacks" at the ready?

Think I like folding here but I'm a dirty nit at the moment.

With 30 bigs it's going in but with 60 I'm going to take advantage of my new found patience and find a fold.

If it's the villains I think you're referring to having been on the table I would be jamming.

Glad to see people are split anyway

I think naming villains could help maybe, and can't see any harm in doing so,

V1 James "Raggy" Clarke (mc this fella bust you)

V2 Peter haslam

Ok, well my assessment was that vs 2 villains I wasn't getting called my worse. I was happy with my stack on the table, so although there was merit in a shove, I opted against ( I was really concerned about Peters hand from live reads)

However those deamons crept in, as I literally hadnt seen a hand all day, so in the knowledge James was coming for the ride, I called, James calls as expected.

Pot circa 65k

Qs ts 2h

Check, check, on me?? ??

Lol now that i know villains i either 44k/call vs either or just pile now

This. I'm playing tight at the moment but I'm not playing stupid.

Feel dependant. Don't mind bet/folding around 1/3 pot or just checking back if I think I'm getting c/raised

If we are readless then we should fold, generally people don't 3 bet light, our hand doesn't play well vs a 5b jam and it's not a good hand to 4b bluff. So I'd say it's a clear fold.

Probably one of the least "readless" pha posts in the last few years

Villain 2 is the only person we should initially worry about.

'previously active, hasn't played a hand for couple
Orbits' should be accounted as readless.

Btw this is definitely not a rub I'm just genuinely curious. What did you have hen you called a big 3bet and then donked/folded
Kk4? Promise not beig cheeky :)

I know it looks horrific, I am fully aware of that, but I have my reasons which I'm not prepared to say on a public forum,

Actually I can say, it is to do with my very specific holding and stone cold 100% read on villain

Played it to lose minimum without getting myself in a spot where I end up tilt getting money in!
Loads of things both hands and people (incl me) specific in that hand (and that is what I'm not prepared to talk about)

Hope that is ok?

Back to the hand

I bet 33k, James folds Peter calls.

River As

Peter thinks 30 secs and jams 61k

Interesting, but ok.

What did you do in the jj hand btw?

See above, really interested in peoples thoughts, we have js