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Online 1a : 16 minute clock and to be played Nine handed Thurs 28 Feb 8.30pm

Day 1b Fri 1March 2pm

Day 1c Sat 2 March 2pm

Day 2 Sun 3 March 1pm

£336 buy in

£150,00 GTD

You will play 16 levels on both online & live day 1's and will carry your chips forward to our live day 2

You can re-enter into another day 1, so now you have 3 chances at the £150,000 GTD prize pool


Satellite Info to follow...

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Hi Guys

Full event details here - http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/news/march-300-deepstack---150000-gtd/2317

Online satellites are running now with 1 seat guaranteed a night, which usually generates between 2 or 3 seats :)

Same as last month:-

8.30pm: €30 1R 1A final
€2 Feeders running all day from 2pm
€7 FO Turbo feeders at 7.30pm & 8pm.

Full satellite details here - http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/march-300-deepstack-online-satellites/2315

Any questions give me a shout :)

Cheers Nicola

Why 20 mins down to 16  think 20 looked fine

18 mins would of been better, that was the general view.

They're finding the right level in terms of the length of the levels for the Day 1a.  20 minutes was too long, so they're trying 16.  If that's not spot on, then expect it to be tweaked for the following month.

:)up

Hi

No change.

The online Day 1 equivalent hands / hr worked out at 17.6 mins but this was dealt 10 handed.

This March the online Day 1 will be dealt 9 handed so 16 minutes is the equivalent.

Cheers Aces

FAO Nicola/Simon

Quick note to let you know the online 8.30pm Sats for this are promoting the wrong dates. Says Thurs 4th to Sunday 7th March 2013.

Cheers
Rob

Will try and make this.

How about having a last chance online Saturday night at 8pm everyone can enter even if you have had your re entry

Hi RobM

thanks for the info - we have noticed it to it will take a few days to get updated.

cheers

sounds good! saves me travelling to notts to bust day 1. can do it in the comfort of my own home!

Full event details here - http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/news/march-300-deepstack---150000-gtd/2317

Online satellites are running now with 1 seat guaranteed a night, which usually generates between 2 or 3 seats, tonight included

Same as last month:-

8.30pm: €30 1R 1A final
€2 Feeders running all day from 2pm
€7 FO Turbo feeders at 7.30pm & 8pm.

Full satellite details here - http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/march-300-deepstack-online-satellites/2315

(http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/images/promotions/190.jpg)

What time is play forecast to finish for the day on the Friday please?

Thanks, Ed

for you, 20 mins after you sit down probs?

10/10 for Zzzziiiiinnnngggg, 0/10 for Originality.

Bonus point for getting in there before my father did.

Overall score 11/20. ;)

meh it's hu, >50% = profitable posting roi imo

cheaper than playing poker for me obv.

hey are you still playing the high stakes cash on Sky Andy? Are you ever in the top ten pots of the week

rofl only for losing when I have top set. much fun.


no one wins.

top set :( keep seeing Ryan getting there on the show :)

Hi Ed

You will play 16 x 40 min levels, so plus breaks it will finish around 1am :)

Cheers Nicola

Thanks Nicola

When do the sattys for this start on the new ipoker client?

Hi Guys

DOWNLOAD IS HERE...............

Please download and create an account by clicking the link here - http://bit.ly/13lJ7Pc

If you have any problems give me a shout on here or contact our live support here - http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/contact.php

£300 Deepstack satellites are running now....MEGA SATS running from Sunday 50 seats a night!!!

Enjoy :)

Cheers Nicola

How much are the megas ?

Sun 24th - Wed 27th Feb
Online 8.30pm
£30 1R 1A
50 x seats Guaranteed

Thurs 28th Feb
Online 8.30pm
£30 1R 1A
10x seats Guaranteed


Thursday coincides with the Online 1a

From Sunday night, the Online Megas into the March Deepstack next weekend, on the new IPoker client

(http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/images/promotions/187.png)

See http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/satellites/300-deepstack for the info on all the feeders, buy-ins, guaranteed seats and to download the new software

There is also

Fri 1st March
Online 8.30pm
£30 1R 1A
10x seats Guaranteed

and a Turbo Rebuy into Day 1A:-

Thurs 28th February
 
6.30pm
 
Buy-in: £20 Turbo Rebuy
 
Guarantee: 10 x £300 Deepstack Tokens

Hi Guys

Just a reminder to play the 50 seats Guaranteed a night you will need to Download the new software, which you can do here - http://bit.ly/13lJ7Pc

If you have any problems give me a shout on here or email support@dusktilldawnpoker.com we are available 10am - 12 midnight every day :)

Cheers Nicola

Hi Guys

A little added incentive to register for the £300 Deepstack online (or qualify online).....

New Last Longer promo:-

- Download the new software and register a new account - Download Here >
 
- Register via the online lobby for the £300 Deepstack via online qualification or direct buy-in for Day 1A, 1B or 1C.
 
- All online registered players will play a free last longer promo; the player to last the longest will win a £1,000 Monte Carlo seat.

Full details - http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/last-longest-in-the-300-deepstack-to-win-a-1000-monte-carlo-seat/2322

Any questions let me know.

Cheers Nicola

I may have already won a seat on the boss client. Is this included in the last longer promotion?

Hopefully another reason not to bust out on day 1 as per the norm.

Yes this will count :) We will enter you as online qualification or pop a token in your account to register for the day 1 of your choice!

Either way we'll make sure it counts :)

P.S. create a new iPoker account just in case ;)

Starting tonight

Mega Satellites for the March £300 Deepstack

Online 8.30pm
£30 1R 1A
50 x seats Guaranteed

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/satellites/300-deepstack

download and create an account on IPoker by clicking the link here - http://bit.ly/13lJ7Pc

(http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/images/promotions/187.png)


Note also the last longer for Online buy-ins/qualifiers http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/last-longest-in-the-300-deepstack-to-win-a-1000-monte-carlo-seat/2322

In the mega-sat how many chips do you get for starting-stack/rebuy/addon?

£33, £30 and £30 for

5000, 5000 and 10000.

Thanks.

Are these blind levels correct? so its effectively just 20 min levels?

If I late reg and add on I would have 15k at 100/200, seems pretty deep to me.

yep but unless 51 in at start it will not run

cool. cheers

The first 4 levels are 20 mins long however ipoker can only do the same length for each so we had to do 8 x 10 min levels

Late reg till end of level 7 so 70 mins into the tourney then a further 10 mins until the add on.

Its very similar to the old set up but as usual we will take on board all feedback to improve

good luck tonight

need 51 registered to get it running because the set up with 50 seats GTD

Why cant I see the tournament!?!

Because I am an idiot

Found it!

Quoted for truth.

Hi Guys

We have 45 mins to go until the big 50 seater and only 48 runners....

Excellent value, spread the word :)

P.S. Don't forget you need to register a brand new account here - http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/download-ipoker.php

Hi Guys

Less than 150 registered in tonight's 50 x £336 seat guaranteed satellite on our new Ipoker software.

Late reg available till 9.45, take the double add on for 75bb av stack

Just download and register through the Dusk Till Dawn homepage

Any issues support will deal with, waiting now :)

Good luck

ACES

try again tomorrow night then!

Mega Satellites for the March £300 Deepstack

Online 8.30pm
£30 1R 1A
50 x seats Guaranteed

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/satellites/300-deepstack

download and create an account on IPoker by clicking the link here - http://bit.ly/13lJ7Pc


167 entries last night, a total of 327 buy-ins with rb's and add-ons so 22 seats given away...more of the same tonight!

What time did online day 1 conclude last month?

About 1am looking at last month's thread

hasnt the clock shortened thou?

-4 mins a level, so take an hour off

So gutted i cant play on this site i cud cry  :'(

Hi Guys

We gave away 22 seats last which was to be expected of course :(

It means excellent value for you guys though :)

Another 50 x £300 Deepstack seats guaranteed tonight at 8.30pm.

Please create your account in plenty of time if you can. We will be available on support@dusktilldawnpoker.com til midnight to help with anything :)

Good Luck with the satellite....crazy value, last night nearly 1 in 3 won a seat :)

Cheers Nicola

Hi Newy

I have looked into your status we should be able to sort it have PM'd you.

Nick

Hi Guys

Only 12 mins to go til the BIG 50 SEATER MEGA SAT - £16,800 worth of £300 Deepstack seats and only 76 runners....Last night 1 in 3 won a seat and we gave away 22 for FREE.....

 This is a one month only BIG promo for the software launch so please take advantage of the value, set up a new account here - http://bit.ly/13lJ7Pc

 Registration open til 8.30pm it's a £30 1R 1A :)

Cheers Nicola

Hi Guys

16 seats given away in tonight's 50 seat GTD £300 satellite, with the 23 last night that is 40 seats given away already

Last longer Monte Carlo seat rules http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/last-longest-in-the-300-deepstack-to-win-a-1000-monte-carlo-seat/2322

Same again tomorrow night

Aces

so effectively paid £156 for a £336 seat. i guess thats good value!

great promo, much improved site - lets hope volume increases because of it.

Looking forward to playing day 1a online, I would tbh prefer to play it at the club but home circumstances dictate that I play online so I'm glad dtd brought in this different day 1 option.. Must admit its a terrific idea giving players that flexibility.

23 seat overlay Sunday

16 seat overlay Monday

Same again tonight?

8.30pm 1R1A, late reg til 9.45pm

50 seats Guaranteed, you choose which starting day to play including Online 1a

DTD I-Poker software download http://bit.ly/13lJ7Pc

 

I know this is prob been asked before..

If you win a seat can you defer it to another deepstack?

Yes, you get a 60 day Deepstack token

ah thats good news as i have not played as i know i cant play the Sunday of the next deepstack weekend

cool !

Much easier system for DTD to administer as well I'd guess!

I'll second that...I love the tokens :)

Hi Guys

LAST LONGER £1,000 ONLINE REGISTRATION PROMO
 
If you register via the online lobby for the £300 Deepstack either via direct buy in or online qualification you will be part of our Last Longer promo. If you last the longest in the Main Event you will win a £1,000 Monte Carlo seat on top of your winnings :)
 
Follow these steps...
 
- Download the software here - http://bit.ly/13lJ7Pc
 - Create an account & deposit
 - Register online for Day 1A, 1B or 1C
 
For full details click http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/last-longest-in-the-300-deepstack-to-win-a-1000-monte-carlo-seat/2322

Cheers Nicola

Like :)up

Is it possible to delete a old dtd acc so I can make a new one for the company I now work for ????

Do you have a new Ipoker DTD account?

Why delete?

Forgot it moved lol. Ok I just make a new ipk acc no need to delete the one on old network

gonna have a crack at the online day 1a...asked the wife if i register now then have an accident and can't play Thurs will she unregister for me...."like I'll know what to do"....think i will register on the day then..."don't be a twat, like you're going to have an accident"...without even thinking i then went on to ask if she could bring me drinks on a tray in a pair of hotpants on the night - suffice to say there is now an eerie silence....flowers tomorrow then.

 ;oopsy;

 Ahrt

lolz :)

Brilliant smurf! You also need to bore her during the breaks with details of your hands, etc. Or you could just go for a good poo...

:)

Hi Guys

Just 30 mins to go until tonight's online MEGA SAT starts (Late Reg til 9.45pm) we have **50 X £300 DEEPSTACK SEATS GTD** Only 47 registered....going to be another night of incredible value! This is a one month only promo so take advantage tonight & tomorrow!!!!

You will need to download the new software and create a brand new account - http://bit.ly/13lJ7Pc
 
If you have any questions give me a shout!!!

Cheers Nicola

...and there lies the luxury of playing online...you can play and poo...no need to wait for the breaks   rotflmfao

Am I reading the lobby right that the first 4 levels are all duplicated pre antes?

Yes, first four levels are twice as long as the later levels. Software doesn't allow the different level lengths, so this is a way round it.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz no antes borrrrrrrring

ty previous deepstack winner xx

Anyone any idea of the date for the April £300 deepstack ? Binked a seat last night but can't play at the weekend

cheers

steve

6-7 April

APAT WCOAP is the weekend before

Perfect

thanks Tighty

Hi Guys

Tonight's the LAST 50 SEATS GTD MEGA SAT!!! 1 in 4 won a seat for the £300 Deepstack last night! This is crazy crazy value for a £30 1R 1A. Starts at 8.30pm (LR 9.45pm)!

Download the new software here - http://bit.ly/13lJ7Pc
 
PLUS anyone who wins a seat or buys in via the lobby for this weekend will automatically be entered into our £1,000 Last Longer promo - http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/last-longest-in-the-300-deepstack-to-win-a-1000-monte-carlo-seat/2322
 
This weekend's £300 Deepstack is guaranteed at £150,000 :) :)

Come on Blonde's grab yourselves a seat Tonight!

Cheers Nicola

In for tonight

Hi Derr Last longer promo..  ;karabiner;

Oi oi, nice one Deano.

Didnt even know this but got it too :)

Anyone travelling from Newcastle/Edinburgh/Glasgow/Aberdeen/Dundee or anywhere North really give me a shout, I have a way of getting down but need to figure out a way home! Will split petrol and offer % swap to make staying for one another worth while!!!

we will be testing for banned substances such as Viagra

Tonight, the Online Day1a of the £150,000 March Deepstack

Online 1a

(http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/images/whatson/300Deepstack.png)

8.30pm, Late Reg to 10.30pm

16x 16 minute levels

£300+36

http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/events/300-deepstack/19930

Qualify straight through to the final day on Sunday, and somewhere near the cash...



Meanwhile, if you want to play a live day one on Friday or Saturday...

(http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/images/promotions/192.png)

6.30pm Last chance £20 rebuy, 10 seats GTD

8.30pm £30 1R1A, 10 seats GTD

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/satellites/300-deepstack

won a seat, what is the chip target I should be looking for day two and do they fix the table draw do they put satellite winners on tables with regs.

Are the breaks every three levels and for how long are breaks??

Regards

Hi Proprius

Are you referring to te online Day 1 or live?

The average stack will be roughly 150,000 - 200,000 obviously depending on how many get through.

The seat draw is totally random both online and live so you will be sat with a mix of all kinds of players ;) satellite and DBI.

The breaks online are at 5 mins to the hour for 5mins, i.e. 8.55pm - 9pm.

The breaks live at the club are roughly every 2 hours so every 3 - 4 levels. We display when the next break is on the plasmas displaying the clock :)

Hope this helps :)

Cheers Nicola

And make sure if you're playing live you let Tighty know for the updates!!

Nicola, are we at a point yet where making day 2 is a guaranteed cash? I know this idea was rumoured to be coming in for this deepstack.... Creates a potentially interesting dynamic at the end of each day!

Cheers
Ruud

good luck all blondes playing online tonight (except when you are in a hand with me).

This really can never happen, due to the way tournies are structured! You aren't paid by the timing of the tourney, ie just by making level 16! It also removes the bubble which pretty much ruins a tourney for good players.

Oh and it would create a terrible dynamic not a good one, of people timebanking for 3 levels. Day 2 would also end up with 1/2 the field with 2bbs and therefore spread the prize pool and reduce the other payouts, it's a terrible idea

Last month we were 15 from the money which is surely as good as being in it!

Not for 15 people it wasn't :)

In case you got a spare £20 we have 10 seat in the last chance turbo at 6.30pm

winners receive a £336 token into the deepstack day1 of there choice (60day expiry)

good luck all blonde's

Totally agree with all of this Guy, but as the idea had been thrown around, I thought I best check

In for tonight,but from the comfort of my bed as ive got some sort of flu again..fml  :'(

I am actually insanely excited about playing this tonight and I have no idea why! I should probably add this usually leaves me on the rail after 30 minutes wondering "how can he ever think top 2 are good there"

Still roll on 30 minutes of fun!

gl Guy

Oh and its your turn on Draw Something lol

nope - your 6 day return was batted back sharpish this morning!

suppose I better wish you luck too  ;)

Hi Guys

There is also another £30 1R 1A MEGA SAT tonight with 10 tokens up for grabs :)

If you're playing the Day 1A online why not play for a re-entry token/token for next month :)

The £20 Turbo made 11 seats so this is brill, if we can do this tonight too that'll be awesome and will make me smile :) :)

Good luck to all playing, see you at the weekend!

PS If you're playing the event make sure you definitely register online via the lobby as there's a FREE £1000 Monte Carlo seat to be won ONLY if you register or qualify online, would be great if a Blonde won it :)

about to sit at my virtual seat. adrenaline pumpin!

gl all

Just a heads up of how its going to work tonight online leg 1A

Play 16 levels
once the last hand is over of level 16 we need all remaining players to not play any further hands
I will be in the chat box DTDmanager
We will record all the chip stack to take over into the live Sunday day2
The structure will run 1 more level at 1/2 blinds then in level 18 the blinds go up so all players go all in.

Good luck

Hi,

Anyone tell me where on ipoker tonights Day 1a is and where the sats are.

Close to screaming.

Thanks

Cotter

Assuming you are on the DTD skin, scroll down the moving section of the left - go to DUSK TILL DAWN and they are all in there - make sure filters are off

Thanks 76. Didn't see the go left arrow. Was driving me nuts.
Cheers

Cotter

is late reg over?

no 45 more mins

97th out of 97...couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo...down to 10K...don't think it's going to happen this time.

 ;frustrated;

Do we have the chip counts of Online day 1A players that remain?

Couldn't make it into day2 with 5 minutes to go I can't hold.. Must run better, made the mrs happy playing from home so may do same next month should I bink another seat.  Underitlikeherbie atm.

GL to BetBetJam who was an absolute pain in my arse, proper owned my soul..  ;madasahatstand;

Also looking forward to finding out who peeps are.

Oh sorry. That's me to blame again :(

People find out eventually. Its a crazy situation that you could not just carry your name over from boss to ipoker. Everyone is using someone else's real name and its amusing when you find out who they are.

There are still two ways to Qualify into Day 1c tomorrow

Online

8.30pm £30 1R1A 10 seats GTD

(http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/images/promotions/194.png)

Live

8pm £20+6 rebuy 10 seats GTD

Late registration until 9pm

The last couple of months, this has made 22-23 seats, and is terrific value

I was enthusiastic about the online Day 1 but probably won't play any more of them without some sort of key to be able to work out who we are playing against.
The player list is so new that HEM stats are worthless, especially since the players where I had >100 hands were people who i'd gathered info whilst playing in satellites.
Live I can see who I'm playing via the DTD website and if I don't know them I can herbiesearch them or at least get some sort of view based on demeanour and appearance.
Online, we all hide behind Screen-names and don't know if we're facing a 4bet from Alex Goulder or Robert Baguley. Don't know if that shove on the turn is being made by Stato or Mitch.


It also felt strangely flat for me. It's fine for the online grinders, but for me, there was no sense of occasion and no sense that I was playing a £150k tournament.

It's a fine innovation from DTD, but my earlier enthusiasm for it has gone.

GL all

This was posted whilst I was typing.....

From 2pm today, full live update of Day 1b of the March £150,000 Deepstack

£300+36

30,000 chips

40 minute clock, 60 minute clock for the final

Late registration until 7.15pm

Re-entry available into 1c tomorrow

(http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/images/whatson/300Deepstack.png)


Update at http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=60469.msg1728236#msg1728236

That has caused more problems than you would believe. Especially plonkers who waste support's time changing names three or four times

It might seem like fun, but people rarely stop to think

I know that Rob is not a big fan of tracking software David anduch prefer that he could block it. It has not taken too long for me to suss out who the majority of the players who play the sats are. Is there a way of importing the hands you have on these players to their new user names?

Tighty I only changed it once. Spoke to AlexGoulder and he was happy for me to use it. I promise you now I will never change my user name from BlondeTroll :)

I had heard the girls are doing double shifts etc and genuinely feel sorry for them put I am up for giving everyone of em a foot massage. Ty

Anyone know the results and numbers from last night please?

DTD have asked for them not to be publicised (names/aliases) at the mo

14 of 106 got through

Biggest stack 585k

1 585797
2 500668   
3 315160   
4 284042   
5 239450   
6 238159   
7 185149
8 178641   
9 154370   
10 151360   
11 149504   
12 91596
13 78332   
14 27772 

thanks for the info !

Nick posted em on here last night and you posted em on here this morning. The cats out of the bag already lol.

Good to see the largest stacks are not that much out of kilter with B+M day 1s, looks like the tweaks to structures worked.

Hi. Does anyone know how many runners started this last night ? Im playing Saturday but might play the online day next month as it seems like 580k is a good start for Sunday lol

Hi Guys

Big Reminder: If you are playing the £300 Deepstack today or tomorrow live at the club **Register ONLINE** before 1pm each day and you could WIN a £1,000 Monte Carlo seat!!!
 
Be part of our last longer it's totally FREE :)
 
http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/last-longest-in-the-300-deepstack-to-win-a-1000-monte-carlo-seat/2322

Cheers Nicola

PS. Online reg cuts off at 1pm to allow us time to enter players so please register before 1pm each day :)

106, 14 got through

Up from 80 and 7 last month

Hi Nicola....trying to play tomorrow but wont know till 3ish....do you have to reg before 1pm to qualify  for MC seat ?

Cheers

Fraser

PS  i ask because I have a spare token

Hi Fraser

if you are using a token it cuts off at 1pm we have to get paid from Ipoker so need you to do it that way.
your chips wont go into play until you arrive so all good.
yes you will qualify for the last longer.

So the chips dont go into play till you arrive...cool

Cheers  Nick

Correct see you tomorrow

Hi Guys

Tonight is your final chance to qualify for the £300 Deepstack with another 20 seats GTD! 10 online and 10 live!! You can win a seat to play the £150,000 GTD event. Day 1C is tomorrow at 2pm live at the club!
 
Tonight 8.30pm: ONLINE £30 1R 1A - 10 tokens GTD
 Tonight 8pm: LIVE £20 Rebuy - 10 seats GTD into Day 1C
 
Don't forget to play online you must download the NEW software - http://bit.ly/13lJ7Pc
 
Also if you register online you will be part of our £1,000 Last Longer promo - http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/last-longest-in-the-300-deepstack-to-win-a-1000-monte-carlo-seat/2322

Cheers Nicola

Hi Guys

Only 4 registered for the 10 seats GTD MEGA online tonight....starts in 30 mins!!!!

Grab the value and you have 60 days to claim your seat in the £300 Deepstack.

Good luck :)

Cheers Nicola

Didn't want to derail the updates thread, but I think it is really really bad precedent to have people starting in the money on day 2, prior to prizepools being announced.

No one had the opportunity to play the bubble correctly, people could have made horrific icm errors without being aware, the big stacks get no advantage

Can Dtd make a clear statement about future months please.

Thanks

Hi outragous76

i do agree this month was a little strange we usually have the payout fixed after 7.15pm Saturday however for one reason or another this didint happen and i apologise to all the players.

Next month as usual the payout will go up after Saturdays late reg.

thanks for your comments

Nick, surely a pay structure should be published prior to day 1 ideally - otherwise - as with the point i made in another thread people playing 1a are hugely disadvantaged if people playing 1c effectvely know they have made the cash going into day 2. There could also be a scenario where there is no bubble on day 1a and  1b but a bubble on 1c?

This is our standard payout -

http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/tournamentpayout.php

For 500+ runner events we use a manual payout which we post its always between 10% - 15% of the field

I don't think we will get into a situation where we pay all day2 unless we mess with the structure to be honest.

We do our best to get the info to the players ASAP.

In any tournament with multiple Day Ones if it's known that X% of the field get paid before the tournament starts then aren't you always at risk of one of the early days reducing to below that % and still not knowing whether that means you've cashed?

Playing 16 levels on Day 1 is always going to get it close to or past the bubble on the early days when people will take gambles knowing they can re-enter so
With 12% paid
150 entrants on Day 1a might realistically reduce to 16 <12%
200 entrants on Day 1b might then reduce to 20 <12%
250 entrants on Day 1c might reduce to 40 >12% and the total through to Day 2 is 76 which is also >12%

Not sure if you can say there's a bubble point until you know how many have entered in total even if you know the pay out table

Yeah Guy what do you suggest they do. You always get one person not happy. How are you supposed to know how many players are going to get paid until you know the final numbers.

Eg.  Dtd payouts are 12% and you go out 12/100 the last hand day 1a. Do you expect Dtd to pay you a min cash? Its totally un workable.

Everyone should know the Dtd structure when they enter the comp but obv they can't post the actuall payouts and numbers until after day 1c entries are confirmed. You know that if you go through the online comp you have a decent chance of making the money. I don't see the problem.

Unless I am misunderstanding what you are moaning at I am gonna guess you went out near the end of the day :)

Please fee free to tell me of any WSOP multi day event where the bubble was reached thru day 1 ( I'll save you time, it's never happend, and the one time it nearly did there was much flapping  within a very experienced TD team).

The bubble is a fundamental point of any tournament, both for the big stacks to make hay and short stacks to not make icm errors

The structure can easily be designed to ensure the bubble isn't reached prior to day 2. There could be a freak occurance where you breach this, but it certainly should be the exception and not the rule.

Not sure why you don't understand the significance of this Jason/David

The above is incorrect.  The bubble burst day 1 of at least one WSOP event last year.

In a multi day event?

No it didn't

And even if it had what's your point? I quite clearly state it should be an exception if it occurs

Probably best to stop digging.  Happened in the ante only event I played.

The ante up event had 1 day 1 but feel free to keep trolling

So what's your point regarding the question at hand?

hey hang on Guy. Doobs ain't trolling. Its you that's moaning for moaning sake.
Dtd have the structure just about spot on for online and live. Fair enough its getting pretty close to the money now so might cause problems with one or possibly two people who go out day 1 and think they are entitled to have cashed. Everyone moaned about the levels being a bit too long online so Dtd reduced them. Afaik day 1a mirrored 1b and there are always advantages to playing 1a or 1c and you just pay your money and take your chance. Dtd are fully open about the prize payouts and I don't really see the problem. They have declared that they would like to pay everyone on day 2 in the future and when this happens more problems might arise.

The way your post comes across seems to insinuate Dtd are not being completely above board. Everyone who is playing should know the situation.

guy I may have got the wrong end of the stick. Sorry. Looks like you are complaining about an incident on Day 2..... I thought you were complaining about another situation that someone was on about on my table


They were saying that someone had gone out of the online day 1a either this time or last time inside the 12%. Don't know if they actually did or not but I said that they should not be paid because after day 1c the %age of the total field going into day two was 15%

Jason

Ive got no idea what your post is on about ?

If doobs isn't trolling he can discuss the point at hand can't he

With regard to pay structure and bubble, if you think it's irrelevant then it's shows your lack of comprehension of tournament poker that you don't even believe its worth discussing

Not that it's got anything to do with you, but tighty very kindly emailed nick on my behalf yesterday, nick has addressed some of my concerns, I was just posing another query!

I haven't for 1 second suggested there is anything under hand. I am just seeking clarification. It will affect which day I choose to play, dependant upon their decision. Part of this is reflected in a historic suggestion of "wanting to pay everyone who makes day 2", which as I have also expressed is, I believe, a bad idea.

Think I got the wrong end of stick Guy and said sorry.

Why would Doobs be trolling. That's never been an accusation levelled at him before. I don't know if you have previous with him or grimmed him but he is pretty sound ain't he?

Your posts just look a bit moaning for moaning sake.

I just looked back Guy.... Min cash £600 and 62 players paid out. As in keeping with what is the normal pay out. How did you not know this???

Febuary min cash was £600 and paid 64 because field had a few more runners.

I also think paying day 2 would be a bad idea an cause problems. But then again a lot of Dtd's ideas have seen ludicrous at first but they have often turned out to be genius and imitated by the competition making poker in the UK better all round.

I understand the importance of decisions around the bubble, I was just pointing out that on the first day of a multi day one tournament it's pretty much impossible to know where the bubble is.
Seems to me that the issue isn't caused by the payout structure per se, it's playing 16 levels and thus reducing the field to somewhere very close to the money.
The GP is playing to 10% of the field on Day 1 and it's suggested that will be at least 15 levels but there we'll know when the bubble is through simple arithmetic.

Not sure what the answer is, Day 1 is longer because DTD are trying to get the tournament to finish at a reasonable time on Day 2 I believe. Personally, a slightly shorter Day 1 and a noon start on Day 2 works.

I think you are always going to get close to the bubble if you are going to have a semi-decent structure on the final day of a 2 day competition.  I don't think you can guarantee this won't happen even if you shift to 15 or even 14 levels.  Variance is going to get you every so often.  There is precious little you can do if you expect 70 players through, if you play enough tournaments you are sometimes going to get occasions when you get 62 or less.

I don't really see at as much of a problem if this happens though, there are a lot of poker players who dislike the slowdown caused by the bubble and hand for hand.  I wouldn't like to guess hich way the vote would go if you gave people a choice between not knowing when the bubble is and having to play 5 hands of hand for hand over 45 minutes.  I am sure DTD will look at it, and if they do, hope they come to the conclusion I do, and not change the tournament and structure.

Cheers

and FWIW I have a reasonable understanding of the term multi day and the term trolling.