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Title: Security help Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 09:28:42 AM Hello
Been robbed again Need help to deter the chavs We have a side window which any one could walk up to which is our weak point of the property. The side window is next to the road which leads to a dead end. But it has car parking spaces in. And no route of escape unless they wanna climb into another house. To escape then. We are ment to be in a gated community but the gates never work. What's the best way to deter the chavs? CCTV ? Fence? Thorny bush? Bars on windows? I will try show some pics so the window in question Need to phone the window boarders first Title: Re: Security help Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 09:32:44 AM Security Camera or even dummy one where it can be clearly seen. Nice houses are always obv targets in poorer areas mate. All the no marks from Riddings target our estate but I have a system that covers the whole house so never been bothered
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Title: Re: Security help Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 11:19:36 AM any good matt?
Title: Re: Security help Post by: EvilPie on February 18, 2013, 11:28:40 AM Didn't realise you had that side of it covered mate. Not sure what more you can do really. Title: Re: Security help Post by: AndrewT on February 18, 2013, 11:37:03 AM BEWARE OF THE GIMP
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc43/kinboshi/488081_10200148764995829_899633267__zpsf0ca8bb4.jpg) Title: Re: Security help Post by: millidonk on February 18, 2013, 11:49:33 AM I lived in Manchester for a few years, never got broken into but got mugged a few times, horrible place. The place still leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
Get alarms/locks fitted on your windows, the louder the better. If they go into other rooms whilst in the property have locks on your doors within the house, obv with the lock being on the other side to what an intruder would be on. Leave the lights on, get a non handbag dog etc. Title: Re: Security help Post by: Acidmouse on February 18, 2013, 11:53:00 AM Oh Madchester - so much to answer for
Title: Re: Security help Post by: RED-DOG on February 18, 2013, 12:03:10 PM I lived in Manchester for a few years, never got broken into but got mugged a few times, horrible place. The place still leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Get alarms/locks fitted on your windows, the louder the better. If they go into other rooms whilst in the property have locks on your doors within the house, obv with the lock being on the other side to what an intruder would be on. Leave the lights on, get a non handbag dog etc. I'm interested in the whole mugging thing, or rather people's reaction to it. Fortunately I've never been mugged myself, but I often wonder how difficult it is to do the sensible thing and hand your valuables over. I'm sure I would, but I have this fear that I might just think "Ah fuck it, they can only kill me once." Title: Re: Security help Post by: MANTIS01 on February 18, 2013, 12:13:07 PM I lived in Manchester for a few years, never got broken into but got mugged a few times, horrible place. The place still leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Get alarms/locks fitted on your windows, the louder the better. If they go into other rooms whilst in the property have locks on your doors within the house, obv with the lock being on the other side to what an intruder would be on. Leave the lights on, get a non handbag dog etc. I'm interested in the whole mugging thing, or rather people's reaction to it. Fortunately I've never been mugged myself, but I often wonder how difficult it is to do the sensible thing and hand your valuables over. I'm sure I would, but I have this fear that I might just think "Ah fuck it, they can only kill me once." When cycling down a country road and some loons jump in your way the sensible thing to do would be to keep on cycling right ;) Title: Re: Security help Post by: RED-DOG on February 18, 2013, 12:23:51 PM I lived in Manchester for a few years, never got broken into but got mugged a few times, horrible place. The place still leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Get alarms/locks fitted on your windows, the louder the better. If they go into other rooms whilst in the property have locks on your doors within the house, obv with the lock being on the other side to what an intruder would be on. Leave the lights on, get a non handbag dog etc. I'm interested in the whole mugging thing, or rather people's reaction to it. Fortunately I've never been mugged myself, but I often wonder how difficult it is to do the sensible thing and hand your valuables over. I'm sure I would, but I have this fear that I might just think "Ah fuck it, they can only kill me once." When cycling down a country road and some loons jump in your way the sensible thing to do would be to keep on cycling right ;) Oi! Sun reader. Don't you start. I still have to rate your breakfast. (When I find my microscope). Title: Re: Security help Post by: millidonk on February 18, 2013, 12:39:56 PM I lived in Manchester for a few years, never got broken into but got mugged a few times, horrible place. The place still leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Get alarms/locks fitted on your windows, the louder the better. If they go into other rooms whilst in the property have locks on your doors within the house, obv with the lock being on the other side to what an intruder would be on. Leave the lights on, get a non handbag dog etc. I'm interested in the whole mugging thing, or rather people's reaction to it. Fortunately I've never been mugged myself, but I often wonder how difficult it is to do the sensible thing and hand your valuables over. I'm sure I would, but I have this fear that I might just think "Ah fuck it, they can only kill me once." It's interesting red, my views have changed over time. When we lived in York, I honestly wouldn't have known what a mugging was but literally in our first week of living in Manchester my mum and dad said to me if anyone ever approaches you asking for money or what have you just hand it over and don't put up a fight. I thought this was strange, but went along with it. I lived in Manchester from ages of like 9-13 and I didn't have to wait long before I put this advice to good use.. One time I was walking home carrying a couple of bags of shopping for my mum when a group of about 7 or so black lads circled me and told me to empty my pockets. I pulled out a receipt along with about 70p in change, they asked if that was my money, I said "no it's my mum's change", they said " oh man, we can't thief of yo mom's" and let me on my way, which was nice of them.. another time I was bunking off school, I was grabbed by a ginger guy and his mate, probably in their late 20s and they took my limited edition charlotte hornets hat that I was wearing, I did actually put up a bit of a protest but it didn't last long. #HateGingers there were a couple of little incidents but one which has stayed with me til this day was when my mum sent me to the chemist to get some medicine as my sisters were ill. I came out of the chemist and a guy came upto me on his bmx and told me to give him all of my money. I said I don't have any money, he said "yes you do, I saw you pay with £20 in the chemist" he then lifted up his top and pulled out a knife. I was like ffs and just handed over the money feeling sorry for myself, he then told me to give him my walkman, my voice got a bit quivery at this point and I was like " I can't give you this, I just got it for a present " he replied "F***ing give it to me" then like an angel from heaven a learner driver pulled up alongside and he made his exit. I saw some terrifying things when I lived in Manchester, saw a driveby, a man get mugged whilst he was carrying his daughter, they even took his trainers. Once I turned about 16 I had a massive growth spurt and said I would never be a victim again, I decided I would rather go out swinging then let someone get the better of me, that was all going fine until a man holding a black plastic bag pulled a machete on me whilst I was in Jamaica.. I had some money in my sock which he didn't get, but he got the contents of my pockets. That was my own fault really, you are warned not to leave the resort especially not at like 3am, but I was hot and couldn't sleep.. One time a guy attempted to mug me in London, by this time I had been in the RAF for a couple of years, 6ft 3 and was at peak physical condition. I laughed in his face and told him in no uncertain terms that I would smash his face in if he didn't walk away from me right there and then. Unsurprisingly he took me up on my offer. Now I have a child of my own, I don't think I would do anything which would put her having her father around into jeopardy nor would I ever let her live in a place where she felt remotely unsafe. Cliffs: Victim turned Vigilante turned family man, hate gingers and Manchester. Don't shout at old men on bikes. Title: Re: Security help Post by: Acidmouse on February 18, 2013, 12:47:14 PM Always better to live in a shed in the best/most safe area then a mansion in shittvilla.
Title: Re: Security help Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 12:50:09 PM I lived in Manchester for a few years, never got broken into but got mugged a few times, horrible place. The place still leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Get alarms/locks fitted on your windows, the louder the better. If they go into other rooms whilst in the property have locks on your doors within the house, obv with the lock being on the other side to what an intruder would be on. Leave the lights on, get a non handbag dog etc. the window didnt smash, the beading popped out. stole a macbook that didnt work and moped-ed off We have locks on windows and alarms Always leave lights on and shut the blinds What was annoying was that a chav was looking into our house whilst I was in. he was about 8-11 and obv told someone we had a laptop just gonna live in the dark now dont wanna get another dog 3 is enough Title: Re: Security help Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 12:53:20 PM Always better to live in a shed in the best/most safe area then a mansion in shittvilla. thanks for your input it has been helpful Title: Re: Security help Post by: Acidmouse on February 18, 2013, 12:57:54 PM Always better to live in a shed in the best/most safe area then a mansion in shittvilla. thanks for your input it has been helpful U lived in Headingly Leeds you must know the score, its one of the most burgled places in the world. Clueless students ahoy. If you dont want to be burgled get lights on side street and get a simple monitoring system with two cams, hook up to your lappy they only cost about a hundred quid. Make sure the cam is well above the side window but visible. If the place is rented ask the landlord to pay for a few more security measure.. Put a note on the side window saying you are being video'd Title: Re: Security help Post by: RED-DOG on February 18, 2013, 12:59:14 PM I lived in Manchester for a few years, never got broken into but got mugged a few times, horrible place. The place still leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Get alarms/locks fitted on your windows, the louder the better. If they go into other rooms whilst in the property have locks on your doors within the house, obv with the lock being on the other side to what an intruder would be on. Leave the lights on, get a non handbag dog etc. I'm interested in the whole mugging thing, or rather people's reaction to it. Fortunately I've never been mugged myself, but I often wonder how difficult it is to do the sensible thing and hand your valuables over. I'm sure I would, but I have this fear that I might just think "Ah fuck it, they can only kill me once." It's interesting red, my views have changed over time. When we lived in York, I honestly wouldn't have known what a mugging was but literally in our first week of living in Manchester my mum and dad said to me if anyone ever approaches you asking for money or what have you just hand it over and don't put up a fight. I thought this was strange, but went along with it. I lived in Manchester from ages of like 9-13 and I didn't have to wait long before I put this advice to good use.. One time I was walking home carrying a couple of bags of shopping for my mum when a group of about 7 or so black lads circled me and told me to empty my pockets. I pulled out a receipt along with about 70p in change, they asked if that was my money, I said "no it's my mum's change", they said " oh man, we can't thief of yo mom's" and let me on my way, which was nice of them.. another time I was bunking off school, I was grabbed by a ginger guy and his mate, probably in their late 20s and they took my limited edition charlotte hornets hat that I was wearing, I did actually put up a bit of a protest but it didn't last long. #HateGingers there were a couple of little incidents but one which has stayed with me til this day was when my mum sent me to the chemist to get some medicine as my sisters were ill. I came out of the chemist and a guy came upto me on his bmx and told me to give him all of my money. I said I don't have any money, he said "yes you do, I saw you pay with £20 in the chemist" he then lifted up his top and pulled out a knife. I was like ffs and just handed over the money feeling sorry for myself, he then told me to give him my walkman, my voice got a bit quivery at this point and I was like " I can't give you this, I just got it for a present " he replied "F***ing give it to me" then like an angel from heaven a learner driver pulled up alongside and he made his exit. I saw some terrifying things when I lived in Manchester, saw a driveby, a man get mugged whilst he was carrying his daughter, they even took his trainers. Once I turned about 16 I had a massive growth spurt and said I would never be a victim again, I decided I would rather go out swinging then let someone get the better of me, that was all going fine until a man holding a black plastic bag pulled a machete on me whilst I was in Jamaica.. I had some money in my sock which he didn't get, but he got the contents of my pockets. That was my own fault really, you are warned not to leave the resort especially not at like 3am, but I was hot and couldn't sleep.. One time a guy attempted to mug me in London, by this time I had been in the RAF for a couple of years, 6ft 3 and was at peak physical condition. I laughed in his face and told him in no uncertain terms that I would smash his face in if he didn't walk away from me right there and then. Unsurprisingly he took me up on my offer. Now I have a child of my own, I don't think I would do anything which would put her having her father around into jeopardy nor would I ever let her live in a place where she felt remotely unsafe. Cliffs: Victim turned Vigilante turned family man, hate gingers and Manchester. Don't shout at old men on bikes. Fascinating stuff Milliy. I've had a gun pointed at me on two occasions. (nothing to do with mugging) Both times I almost crapped myself. I once shot a bloke too, but he asked me to do it. You're not serious about hating all gingers though surely? Title: Re: Security help Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 12:59:19 PM I dunno what I would do if i got mugged. just give him what ever I have.
I always taxi it to anywhere if out and dont carry much cash on me. After I got pick pocketed I try not to carry much cash on me. Title: Re: Security help Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 01:03:31 PM Always better to live in a shed in the best/most safe area then a mansion in shittvilla. thanks for your input it has been helpful U lived in Headingly Leeds you must know the score, its one of the most burgled places in the world. Clueless students ahoy. If you dont want to be burgled get lights on side street and get a simple monitoring system with two cams, hook up to your lappy they only cost about a hundred quid. Make sure the cam is well above the side window but visible. If the place is rented ask the landlord to pay for a few more security measure.. Put a note on the side window saying you are being video'd Didnt live in headingly I lived in a lovely place called little london opposite library pub and near milanos. gonna get cctv and some motion lights. gonna get beware of the dogs sign and a smile your on camera sign. gonna make sure were never gonna get robbed again. Title: Re: Security help Post by: millidonk on February 18, 2013, 01:05:28 PM Fascinating stuff Milliy. I've had a gun pointed at me on two occasions. (nothing to do with mugging) Both times I almost crapped myself. I once shot a bloke too, but he asked me to do it. You're not serious about hating all gingers though surely? Funny you should say that, I also had a gun pulled on me! This was in Estonia and the gun holder was an Estonian policeman pointing it a pair of pissed up Englishmen who were refusing to leave a casino. Said policeman also told the whole taxi rank to not let us in their cabs so we had to walk back to the hotel which we had no idea where it was in approx 5ft of snow wearing T-shirts. I have also been stabbed by a friend as I asked him to do it. I also once asked the same friend to cut off my foot so I didn't have to go to work the next day, thankfully he wasn't as drunk as me that time! Luckily I drink about 1,000000th of what I used to. Will show you my scar when next in DTD. Cliffs on your gun stories? Title: Re: Security help Post by: Woodsey on February 18, 2013, 01:05:36 PM any good matt? lol, I hope your bird chose those :P Title: Re: Security help Post by: Acidmouse on February 18, 2013, 01:05:46 PM Little London FUK ME...u did well to survive that shithole.
Title: Re: Security help Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 01:12:14 PM Little London FUK ME...u did well to survive that shithole. I came out unscathed mate got his lap top stolen and car window smashed in and a girl got mugged outside our house Title: Re: Security help Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 01:14:34 PM I think manchester is by far the most scummiest place I have ever lived in.
some of the ppl are just pure scum Title: Re: Security help Post by: MANTIS01 on February 18, 2013, 02:10:14 PM When I was about 21 I drove round to my parents house one Sunday afternoon. They weren't in but there was a car I didn't recognise on the drive. As I approached the front door three blokes walked out the house carrying armfuls of my parents stuff. What is the sensible thing to do?
Title: Re: Security help Post by: AndrewT on February 18, 2013, 02:14:57 PM When I was about 21 I drove round to my parents house one Sunday afternoon. They weren't in but there was a car I didn't recognise on the drive. As I approached the front door three blokes walked out the house carrying armfuls of my parents stuff. What is the sensible thing to do? Block their car in, run away, call rozzers. Title: Re: Security help Post by: AndrewT on February 18, 2013, 02:17:32 PM You're not serious about hating all gingers though surely? No one's serious about hating all gingers. (http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/8/2011/08/xlarge_6028889340_b23429a75a_b.jpg) Title: Re: Security help Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 03:45:35 PM When I was about 21 I drove round to my parents house one Sunday afternoon. They weren't in but there was a car I didn't recognise on the drive. As I approached the front door three blokes walked out the house carrying armfuls of my parents stuff. What is the sensible thing to do? What did u do? Prob wouldn't approach them and spy on them prob ring police and get reg number etc Title: Re: Security help Post by: kinboshi on February 18, 2013, 03:46:48 PM When I was about 21 I drove round to my parents house one Sunday afternoon. They weren't in but there was a car I didn't recognise on the drive. As I approached the front door three blokes walked out the house carrying armfuls of my parents stuff. What is the sensible thing to do? Give them a hand? Some of the stuff might have been heavy. Title: Re: Security help Post by: outragous76 on February 18, 2013, 04:25:21 PM I think manchester is by far the most scummiest place I have ever lived in. some of the ppl are just pure scum Surely see Acidmouses' earlier post then! I happen to disagree! There are some very nice parts of manchester and surrounding areas Title: Re: Security help Post by: kinboshi on February 18, 2013, 04:35:08 PM I think manchester is by far the most scummiest place I have ever lived in. some of the ppl are just pure scum Surely see Acidmouses' earlier post then! I happen to disagree! There are some very nice parts of manchester and surrounding areas Mostly the surrounding areas though, yeah? Title: Re: Security help Post by: aaron1867 on February 18, 2013, 04:48:47 PM Manchester is a decent place to live if you don't venture out of the city centre.
Title: Re: Security help Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 04:52:51 PM I think manchester is by far the most scummiest place I have ever lived in. some of the ppl are just pure scum Surely see Acidmouses' earlier post then! I happen to disagree! There are some very nice parts of manchester and surrounding areas Surrounding areas around 30 mins away are nice but just not areas which is close to centre like salford cheetham hill broughton hulme Title: Re: Security help Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 04:54:46 PM Manchester is a decent place to live if you don't venture out of the city centre. I prefer to live outskirts wilmslow ftwU won't get anywhere nice 10 mins from city centre unless u live in apartments Title: Re: Security help Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 05:00:08 PM I think manchester is by far the most scummiest place I have ever lived in. some of the ppl are just pure scum Surely see Acidmouses' earlier post then! I happen to disagree! There are some very nice parts of manchester and surrounding areas I live two min drive from g casino in the new estates Title: Re: Security help Post by: AndrewT on February 18, 2013, 05:40:18 PM Manchester is a decent place to live if you don't venture out of the city centre. Most provincial cities are OK if you don't venture out from the centre. Title: Re: Security help Post by: millidonk on February 18, 2013, 07:33:10 PM +1 to Ho.
Mosside, longsight, whalley range, chorlton, the amount of shit holes is just outstanding. I know everywhere has it's bad places, but Manchester takes the biscuit. Title: Re: Security help Post by: aaron1867 on February 18, 2013, 07:38:15 PM Manchester is a decent place to live if you don't venture out of the city centre. Most provincial cities are OK if you don't venture out from the centre. Yeah, but Manchester has a really nice centre for a city with such a dodgy rep. Title: Re: Security help Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 08:50:13 PM Manchester is a decent place to live if you don't venture out of the city centre. Most provincial cities are OK if you don't venture out from the centre. Yeah, but Manchester has a really nice centre for a city with such a dodgy rep. I think ur nice will be diff from my nic e Title: Re: Security help Post by: BangBang on February 19, 2013, 01:12:34 AM Sorry to hear about the burglary..
Motion sensors and an alarm system won't do much in terms of prevention, the thieves will still have more then enough time to take your stuff before the law get there. You're probably better off getting a guard dog if you can, or just move to a safer less vulnerable area. Now to Red-dogs comment about Muggings, I lived in New york for most of my life growing up (Long Island - which is pretty nice) first time someone tried to mug me was when I went to get KFC from union turnpike which was about a 20 minute walk from where I lived, 2 guys asked me to give them the bag, which I was not giving up being 13 and only being allowed fast food once every two months, so I took a beating but held onto the bag. Went home told my uncle whom I lived with; he immediately took me out in his car, we found the guys who must have been no 16ish he made the kids tell them where they lived (it was this or he would call the law plus my uncle was 6'4 and built like a brick shit house) he told their parents and made me fight one of kids one on one.. I think this was probably a good way of dealing with the situation at the time because it taught the kids a lesson about consequences. Pretty sure they didn't try to Mug anyone after that Second time I was finishing training in Sunnyside was catching the subway home when three guys demanded I give them my Jordans I refused and started fighting got stabbed twice and got a razor blade across my face (Scars still slightly visible) I probably should have handed over my bag which was just full of gym gear and my Jordans would have saved a lot of worrying and heartache for my family. Third time I was coming back from a house party in West Ham and two black youths both on mountain bikes asked me for the time, then pulled out a gun and demanded my wallet, which without hesitation I quickly handed over as there was no way I was gonna be a hero. So I think it's situational, sometimes you stand and fight other times you give them what they want. But saying that if I was with any of my kids or my partner I would immediately hand over my wallet/cash. Title: Re: Security help Post by: RED-DOG on February 19, 2013, 01:59:21 AM Sorry to hear about the burglary.. Motion sensors and an alarm system won't do much in terms of prevention, the thieves will still have more then enough time to take your stuff before the law get there. You're probably better off getting a guard dog if you can, or just move to a safer less vulnerable area. Now to Red-dogs comment about Muggings, I lived in New york for most of my life growing up (Long Island - which is pretty nice) first time someone tried to mug me was when I went to get KFC from union turnpike which was about a 20 minute walk from where I lived, 2 guys asked me to give them the bag, which I was not giving up being 13 and only being allowed fast food once every two months, so I took a beating but held onto the bag. Went home told my uncle whom I lived with; he immediately took me out in his car, we found the guys who must have been no 16ish he made the kids tell them where they lived (it was this or he would call the law plus my uncle was 6'4 and built like a brick shit house) he told their parents and made me fight one of kids one on one.. I think this was probably a good way of dealing with the situation at the time because it taught the kids a lesson about consequences. Pretty sure they didn't try to Mug anyone after that Second time I was finishing training in Sunnyside was catching the subway home when three guys demanded I give them my Jordans I refused and started fighting got stabbed twice and got a razor blade across my face (Scars still slightly visible) I probably should have handed over my bag which was just full of gym gear and my Jordans would have saved a lot of worrying and heartache for my family. Third time I was coming back from a house party in West Ham and two black youths both on mountain bikes asked me for the time, then pulled out a gun and demanded my wallet, which without hesitation I quickly handed over as there was no way I was gonna be a hero. So I think it's situational, sometimes you stand and fight other times you give them what they want. But saying that if I was with any of my kids or my partner I would immediately hand over my wallet/cash. That's an excellent insight Mr Bang, and I'm sure you're right about it all being situational. Title: Re: Security help Post by: BorntoBubble on February 19, 2013, 02:10:44 AM Sorry to hear about the burglary.. Motion sensors and an alarm system won't do much in terms of prevention, the thieves will still have more then enough time to take your stuff before the law get there. You're probably better off getting a guard dog if you can, or just move to a safer less vulnerable area. Now to Red-dogs comment about Muggings, I lived in New york for most of my life growing up (Long Island - which is pretty nice) first time someone tried to mug me was when I went to get KFC from union turnpike which was about a 20 minute walk from where I lived, 2 guys asked me to give them the bag, which I was not giving up being 13 and only being allowed fast food once every two months, so I took a beating but held onto the bag. Went home told my uncle whom I lived with; he immediately took me out in his car, we found the guys who must have been no 16ish he made the kids tell them where they lived (it was this or he would call the law plus my uncle was 6'4 and built like a brick shit house) he told their parents and made me fight one of kids one on one.. I think this was probably a good way of dealing with the situation at the time because it taught the kids a lesson about consequences. Pretty sure they didn't try to Mug anyone after that Second time I was finishing training in Sunnyside was catching the subway home when three guys demanded I give them my Jordans I refused and started fighting got stabbed twice and got a razor blade across my face (Scars still slightly visible) I probably should have handed over my bag which was just full of gym gear and my Jordans would have saved a lot of worrying and heartache for my family. Third time I was coming back from a house party in West Ham and two black youths both on mountain bikes asked me for the time, then pulled out a gun and demanded my wallet, which without hesitation I quickly handed over as there was no way I was gonna be a hero. So I think it's situational, sometimes you stand and fight other times you give them what they want. But saying that if I was with any of my kids or my partner I would immediately hand over my wallet/cash. That's an excellent insight Mr Bang, and I'm sure you're right about it all being situational. I agree on the situational thing I ha a friend who was involved in an armed robbery the house had 4 girls in it and they came in with machetes one of the girls ha competed at national level karate and is pretty fucking tough she said to me he considered it maybe I tere was 2 or 3 guys she may have taken it on basically she got tied up to her friend and could have escaped the lad were like 16-18 and they left one of the younger ones with her while they raided the house but she stayed quite which I believe was the right call as later on they found out they had guns Title: Re: Security help Post by: KarmaDope on February 19, 2013, 07:24:23 PM Paul, simple piece of advice for you :)
Get an apartment 2-3 floors up, then see the bastards try and get through your window! Title: Re: Security help Post by: paulhouk03 on February 19, 2013, 09:40:11 PM Paul, simple piece of advice for you :) Get an apartment 2-3 floors up, then see the bastards try and get through your window! Apartments don't like having guard dogs in the place Can't get my gfs dad to buy me an apartment either :( |