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this was i hand played 10 minutes ago, we hand just started the tourney, so completely readless, it's deffo not a spot that comes up much, but i deffo though it was interesting.

Full Tilt Poker Game #32156830750: Super Stack $4.5K Guarantee (249566919), Table 17 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:36:36 CET - 2013/02/20 [09:36:36 ET - 2013/02/20]
Seat 1: mlazareva (4,680)
Seat 2: PAYMYLOANZ (4,850)
Seat 3: MRsRMaxy (4,820)
Seat 4: DarkYojimbo1 (4,970)
Seat 5: Shwed55zzz (5,720)
Seat 6: pokamon303 (5,000)
Seat 7: Melamory (4,970), is sitting out
Seat 8: brendymc3 (4,990)
mlazareva posts the small blind of 10
PAYMYLOANZ posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PAYMYLOANZ [Tc 3d]
MRsRMaxy calls 20
DarkYojimbo1 folds
Shwed55zzz calls 20
pokamon303 folds
Melamory folds
brendymc3 calls 20
mlazareva calls 10
PAYMYLOANZ checks
*** FLOP *** [8s Td 4h] (Total Pot: 100, 5 Players)
mlazareva checks
PAYMYLOANZ has 15 seconds left to act
PAYMYLOANZ checks
MRsRMaxy checks
Shwed55zzz checks
brendymc3 checks
*** TURN *** [8s Td 4h] [4s] (Total Pot: 100, 5 Players)
mlazareva checks
PAYMYLOANZ bets 60
MRsRMaxy has 15 seconds left to act
MRsRMaxy calls 60
zidix sits down
zidix has registered late for the tournament and will be dealt in on their big blind
Shwed55zzz folds
Melamory has returned
brendymc3 folds
mlazareva calls 60
*** RIVER *** [8s Td 4h 4s] [Ts] (Total Pot: 280, 3 Players)
Melamory is feeling normal
mlazareva checks
Melamory is feeling happy
PAYMYLOANZ bets 220
MRsRMaxy raises to 4,740, and is all in
mlazareva folds
PAYMYLOANZ ??????

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Sorry, I cant see a decision?

How long to slow roll for?

please send the 50p to a good charity on my behalf

i thought it was an interesting spot. we fold and still have like 220 bb's and a great structure against a reasonably weak field. this spot looked marginal at best to me.

What do we beat that he plays like that?

Gonna end up being a total idiot with a flush more often then someone playing 108 / 44 this way.

ALOT! at these stakes

I disagree that its going to be a flush alot more often than T8/44.

Lead flop though.

maybe i'm giving them to much respect, but somebody butchering a flush that bad seems v unlikely to me

disagree about betting flop

as played are you happy to snap off here?

so you c/f the flop? c/call seems the worse option by far

ya I just c/f, don't like leading a hand this weak when we are all so deep.

in a $10 super on the river I has a house so I call.

I think what is most important is that Melamory was feeling normal but by the end of the hand he was feeling happy.

Aside from that I play it much like you do and then fold river, as you are best looking to split, but could be beat. It isn't worth it for the amount of chips you could be winning to what you could be losing.

Limping 10-8 utg bit unlikely imo. Because you check flop and wake up when the next 4 comes down 88 or 10x can shove for value otr or eg A4 can misguide shove to avoid a chop. I check flop also and snap river. Don't think he wud have flush.

c.f is ok, c/c ok vs 1 other

Call. If he has 10-8 or 4-4 (as unlikely as each would be) then good luck to him, just play the maths in this spot. It's most likely he has a 10 himself and you're splitting, but to put him on specifically 10-8 or pocket 4s in a low buy in tournament is too nitty. There are players who will make this shove with a back-doored flush, 4, overpair, etc, certainly more hands that you beat than the 2 that have you beat.

river is a clear fold, flop is b/f although c/f ok too imo.

Alot of different opinions, which is interesting.

Agree with what you said, and i did fold but always good to get other opinions.

You play it fine, but you should have sharkscope ready to snap input, and against this particular villain (having done a quick sharkscope) I would definitely call...

Villain has an ITM of 2% in 543 games, I snap this so quick, if I snapped any quicker, it would snap off

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