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Title: Set on an A high board, vs utg raiser Post by: dtm75 on February 26, 2013, 01:06:20 PM Live Galament. Happened just over a week ago and still wondering whether I missed value?
300/600. Both villain and hero have 40k~. Villain, tight competent regular. Have a bit of history, and I don't seem to be getting the better of our battles. Villain UTG: Raise to 1200 All fold to me on the Button with 8c 8h and I elect to call. Blinds fold Ad Jh 8s flop (3300) Villain (2000) Hero (5000) Villain calls Turn Aspades (13300) Villain check Hero (7000) Villain Calls River Kh (27300) Villain check We??? Got an immense amount of head shaking when I did what I did. Are we ok to check behind here when any Kx / Qx comes? Title: Re: Set on an A high board, vs utg raiser Post by: outragous76 on February 26, 2013, 01:08:02 PM jam
v bet if you think he somehow finds a fold with an A if you jam (seems unlikley thou) Title: Re: Set on an A high board, vs utg raiser Post by: JustinSayne on February 26, 2013, 01:24:25 PM Bigger flop + turn.
River is a sigh jam Checking back isnt the worst. But in general live players dont fold 3 of a kind Title: Re: Set on an A high board, vs utg raiser Post by: millidonk on February 26, 2013, 01:27:59 PM Quite villain dependent but jamming against most randoms. AJ probably 4 bets on the flop or c/r on the turn. AK probs leads the river. Most people are not folding an Ace, we are getting paid by a lot of hands.
Against decent people I might lean to just betting 12k. I think we need specific reads/be certain of their range to just check behind here. Title: Re: Set on an A high board, vs utg raiser Post by: cambridgealex on February 26, 2013, 01:32:02 PM flop size is ok, but turn should be much bigger, he aint folding an ace. go 9k, then allin on the river. yeh it does suck kind of but he is more likely to have AQ or AT or other Ax than AK or AJ.
Ignore the head shaking from the gala crew, if he had shown AK they'd be patting you on the back thinking your the next Ivey. Title: Re: Set on an A high board, vs utg raiser Post by: MC on February 26, 2013, 01:50:54 PM flop size is ok, but turn should be much bigger, he aint folding an ace. go 9k, then allin on the river. yeh it does suck kind of but he is more likely to have AQ or AT or other Ax than AK or AJ. This Title: Re: Set on an A high board, vs utg raiser Post by: dtm75 on February 26, 2013, 01:58:30 PM turn should be much bigger 13k~ in the pot, both having 33k~ behind. 7k (with a call) gives me a pot size bet (which I failed to do obv) left behind for the river. What's the rationale behind this larger turn bet? Is the 7k way too cheap for hands like 9s Ts to get there? Title: Re: Set on an A high board, vs utg raiser Post by: cambridgealex on February 26, 2013, 02:19:23 PM turn should be much bigger 13k~ in the pot, both having 33k~ behind. 7k (with a call) gives me a pot size bet (which I failed to do obv) left behind for the river. What's the rationale behind this larger turn bet? Is the 7k way too cheap for hands like 9s Ts to get there? To him 7k is only a bit more than 5k, which is what he's already called on the flop. Then you'll jam the river for 26k and that will seem like a huge bet to him, even though it may be "pot", it's not very likely he'll be thinking like that. You don't really wanna be jamming river for pot anyway, 3/4 pot is better. going 9k then 24k, or 10k then 23k is more likely to get called. Also like you said, you wanna charge those draws too, 7k is just too cheap. Title: Re: Set on an A high board, vs utg raiser Post by: dtm75 on February 27, 2013, 12:08:34 PM To him 7k is only a bit more than 5k, which is what he's already called on the flop. Then you'll jam the river for 26k and that will seem like a huge bet to him, even though it may be "pot", it's not very likely he'll be thinking like that. You don't really wanna be jamming river for pot anyway, 3/4 pot is better. going 9k then 24k, or 10k then 23k is more likely to get called. Makes a lot of sense, thanks for the feedback señor |