Title: Hands that got messy at the GUKPT Number 2 Post by: Doobs on March 06, 2013, 03:38:34 PM It is day 3 at the GUKPT. I started the day with 600k chips and I lost a lot of chips early, so have spent much of the day on around 300k. Marc is now to my right, but that has meant that I seem to have spent most of the day facing either a raise or a 3 bet before it gets to me. This and a lot of bad hands have meant I was unable to find many decent spots before winning a race with 99 vs AJ off (open shove for 260K, blinds 8k/16k) and a SB vs BB coup (K6 open shoved vs AT when on 185K at 10K/20K). I also had an AQ vs AT split pot all in pre between them and clearly lost/spewed a few chips.
I don't think villian will have seen any more of my hands. I should have appeared pretty tight, barring the K6 hand. I now have 550k, and it is only a couple of hands after the K6 vs AT coup. Andy Efstathiou is sat on my left crippled on just over 20K. There are 11 players left. Marc has recently left the table with his huge stack (2m or so) and everyone left at the table has less than 1m. I think we were 6 handed. As we are all short we aren't playing the streets, and are playing a lot more hands than table big stack next door. Villian is Antonio Millan. He has about 100k more than me. I am reasonably sure he is Spanish and I have previously googled and hendon mobbed him without any obvious success other than chip counts from this tournament (I didn't spend a lot of time on google, and probably didn't go past page 1e). He was on the next table to me earlier and seemed to love the game and was clearly excited when talking about his hands (presumably) at the bar to his friend, and was clearly excited when he won big pots. Antonio has a small table on his right. On this table he has a paper copy of the payouts for the tournament. He has looked been looking at it frequently, I mean really frequently. He likes his tapis button. His standard 3 bet size over a min open to 40K appears to be all in 600K. He calls in the BB frequently and he appears to be calling 3 bets fairly wide, and doesn't fold easily. He is UTG and limps 20K. I am UTG+1 and look down at Ts Th. I raise to 100K, which I am reasonably sure is too much, but at the time I assumed would let every one know I wasn't folding, and I didn't want to play 3 streets vs Antonio with a vulnerable hand. I fully intended to call off my 25 BBs or so if anybody shoved on me when I raised. I accept this raise size looks a bit spewy. Everyone folds including Andy Efstathiou on my left with his 20K. Antonio thinks for a while, looks at his table of payouts yet again, waits a few seconds and says all in. A few years ago, through a trawl through my database I concluded that the vast majority of limp reraises are pretty much always AK, AA, KK, or QQ with a handful of other pairs and spew. I have tended to assume over the years that this assumption still holds for bad or inexperienced players. I folded. Is my thinking right? For info, the payout piece of paper he is reading says: 1st – £103,240 2nd – £68,480 3rd – £44,660 4th – £27,000 5th – £20,250 6th – £16,670 7th – £13,100 8th – £9,530 9th – £7,150 10th – £5,560 11th – £4,470 Edit: I am reasonably certain he hasn't limp jammed before. I can't recall many limps either, I think he was usually opening with a raise. Title: Re: Hands that got messy at the GUKPT Number 2 Post by: BorntoBubble on March 06, 2013, 03:47:45 PM I fold here as I have the same assumption as you with limp jams.
Even more so as you have made it 100k In my opinion I make it like 65k-70k if he jams we fold if he peels we are in position with a stron hand. Which 95% of the time is going to be better than a hand that has been limp/called. Title: Re: Hands that got messy at the GUKPT Number 2 Post by: theprawnidentity on March 06, 2013, 03:55:04 PM No need to raise that big, I think about 3-3.5x is fine. By 5x'ing at this this stage your only getting action from bigger pairs and AK, possibly AQ (though probably not AQ if the guy is that worried about pay jumps).
Title: Re: Hands that got messy at the GUKPT Number 2 Post by: youthnkzR on March 06, 2013, 04:03:24 PM There's a guy with 1bb. Pay jump = The buy in, and we are facing a Limp/Jam from a seemingly inexperienced guy UTG (even though this is his standard) - Who the money seems to mean ALOT to. Seems pretty strong from him - especially over a 5x.
Would assume he's got the goods. (AK at the very minimum) Title: Re: Hands that got messy at the GUKPT Number 2 Post by: AlexMartin on March 06, 2013, 04:52:33 PM 45k
Prefer really small v utg limps, encourages a wider calling range giving them such a great price and psr still big enough for our positional advantage post. Title: Re: Hands that got messy at the GUKPT Number 2 Post by: pleno1 on March 06, 2013, 04:55:40 PM the blinds are 10/20k? anything bigger than 60 here is a really bad, want to give Marcy boy some room too.
48-52 pre, folding vs a l/raise. Title: Re: Hands that got messy at the GUKPT Number 2 Post by: rfgqqabc on March 06, 2013, 05:02:59 PM the blinds are 10/20k? anything bigger than 69 here is a really bad, want to give Marcy boy some room too. 48-52 pre, folding vs a l/raise. Agree with this. Thoughts on supertank jam? Lots of bigs but with the 1bb stack and an inexperienced guy who can easily make the wrong decision- tank folding JJ or snapping with 77 Title: Re: Hands that got messy at the GUKPT Number 2 Post by: MC on March 06, 2013, 06:43:09 PM 100k is huge. If you wanted to somewhat purposely spew a little and make it too big, then go 75-85k.
But yeah 65k is sufficient here, and can certainly see merit in 45k-60k. This is a super snap easy fold against described villain. I think we would be puking with QQ tbh. Title: Re: Hands that got messy at the GUKPT Number 2 Post by: Doobs on March 07, 2013, 10:57:18 PM the blinds are 10/20k? anything bigger than 60 here is a really bad, want to give Marcy boy some room too. 48-52 pre, folding vs a l/raise. Marc has recently left the table, sorry if it wasn't clear in my OP. I realised my raise was bad, just wanted to be sure my fold was correct. Title: Re: Hands that got messy at the GUKPT Number 2 Post by: pleno1 on March 07, 2013, 10:59:46 PM Doesn't matter he will still find a reason somehow to 3bet.
:) Think as played its good/fine. |