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Ok first big session of PLO
I cover
In sb with 6 cards

Straddle to 8
Villain 1 raises to 16
Call call
Do we raise with any hand here or do flat with my entire range ?

Crazy action!

yeh, just spew it in with 4 2s in your hand, what could go wrong?

Lol sorry what happened after made it pretty mad

I potted it and got 4
Callers

It was gonna be a step by step thing

Pretty poor OP mate. U say u cover. By how much? How deep are u?

flip flop once managed to get it all in pre and drawing dead holding 4  Ks in a side event at the Irish winter festival :)

Yup sorry not thinking straight ATM

2 2 £ game I have 1.3
The other stacks are around 400-500
The guy on the left of me has 900

In before brag thread

Just wondered if I should be raising anything in the sb

AAKQJT triple suited? :P

Sure you shouldnt be raising a tonne of hands but there are certainly a bunch of hands that are slam dunk raises

Aces you want to get in nothing else. If  its absolutely mental we can go wide with 1 nut suit and solid 4 behind if not try and make it so any 4 are sweet in 4 and all 6 do something together. Do not repot aa3779 two suits one to the 9 :-)

I think we flat many hands here, always chances we can ISO or shove if it looks good

3betting a random hand from sb seems like a recipe for disaster in 6o

If/do you think everyone will still call then why would you want to inflate the pot with any random shit unless you just want to flip for it.

Paul's asking is there a hand we can raise for value.

The game wasn't that bad not much 3 betting pot tend to be 2-4 players


But I had a good hand Ad Ahrt 8s 6d  5s 4h
Well it looked pretty to me
Wasn't too sure if its good to raise with anything here but don't like the idea of just flatting  with two players to act behind me

Not seen any one three bet to 50£ + in the game

Yup that's what I'm asking


I'm sorry if my posts and threads are utter shite
But I haven't played PLO much and wanna learn to get better as it seems a fun game to play

My only grasp of the game is to find cards that draw to the nuts and back doors


Also pls bear in mind English is my second language :)

If the game is super splashy, pot this. But be prepared to give up on boards you don't flop a strong draw or flop a set/good straight (read: not dummy end) on.

IMO 6plo is about exploiting people who play too loose pre because of how many cards you get, being OOP sucks in this hand for a lot of reasons but mainly because you're in the dark for 3 streets vs splashy people with 6 cards.

Personally, 6 Card PLO, with a possible FIVE players behind us, NO, there is no hand we can raise for value in the SB.

It is a very simple hand, & game. Only the nuts will do here, & even if you flop the temporary nuts, you still have to hold.

I'm not convinced there is much skill needed here either. Just hope you flop the nuts, or a draw to it, & remember that ALL the money is going in. 

Ty tikay

was this at the 235 Thursday night?

lee

Nope yesterday heard Thursday was crazy tho

Yes you can raise hands, but only raise hands with big pairs, A-high suits or full broadyway run-downs, basically the only hand you could consider raising here that doesn't contain an ACE is KKQQJJ/KKJJTT/QQJJTT.

I actually LIKE raising the best hands here because it shallows the stack and somewhat aliviates the positional disadvantage, also with shallower stacks people will stack off lighter post-flop so providing we have a strong nutted hand this is a good thing imo. Basically we're going to need to be able to chk/raise ALL IN, or comfortably POT into the field.

Agree with this as you are getting in money ahead, and makes playing post OOP so much easier due to the lower SPR.

Negatives being if your 3b % is 0 then you are turning (1/3) of your hand face up especially from SB. IDK tho I like to gamble so don't mind inflating these pots :)

Yh this is true but prolly irrelevant in thes live games because when you raise pre-flop from strong positions people assume you have aces 100% of the time. I've been playing for years with people who have watched me raise all number of different (albeit very strong) hands from this position yet if I were to do it tomorrow they will be convinced that I must have ACES.

It's usually table dependent, I personally would re-pot based the fact that I'd want to narrow the field OOP and get more money into the pot, to a view of getting the lot if my hand improves on the flop and it makes C-betting a lot easier, gives you two ways to win the pot..

Also if you do pot, be prepared to either call a raise or re-pot (at which point you'll be playing your hand face up) based on the information that you've given Straddles to 8 in a 2-2 game (the fact you're playing 6 card Omaha) and you have the average of 3 players each hand I think it'll be a situation that if next to acts calls the others will call too, so if the person after you is either stuck, short stacked or loves to gamble it would be the right play to raise anyway and hopefully next to act doesn't mug you off by flat calling and re-pots, which would leave you heads up.

If you raise and you're not re-raised and the hand goes multi-way be prepared to give up on ugly boards and don't donk bet into the pot if you don't improve but if you do, lead out always lead out in 6 card omaha multiway as it's usually easy for people to catch up unless you flop 4 Aces or straight flush with your  5s 8s and even if you do, still lead out..

On a side note, you seem pretty deep stacked for 6 Card PLO at 2-2 blinds, have you been winning a lot on the night? because this would also change the dynamic of the hand....
 

Yeah sat with 150£ kinda nut peddled really and held in big pots
The person on my left was stacked earlier by me and topped up 500£

He called so did the other four flop was  Js  9c 6s pot was around 500 £

I check
Bb Check
Min raiser Check
Spanish Guy creamed his pants said how can I lose this pot and jammed 350£  super happilyJd Jh 9h 9s Aspades x
Raf white tank called 300£ didn't see hand
I fold
The guy in bb who cold called my 3b called with qqtkx
Min raiser fold

Turn was 3c
River  Th


Spanish guy was in tears

 
This changes the hand completely... You're playing a high variance game based on luck and aggression, against a table of people who want to gamble it up (so aggression may not even matter much) I'd say flat when you miss lock up your winnings and head straight for the cash desk, knowing you've been incredibly fortunate not to have done your nut...

Met a couple of Mancunian Chinese regs at the Mint Cromwell road the other day... They said the Omaha action in Manchester is crazy...  

erm I havent seen it run that often but I only play 1-3 times a week. Thursday is prob a good day friday is abit hit and miss it depends whos there tbh


I dont wanna lock my winnings up because I want to play again I dont wanna be in the bad books with the regs

cashed out more anyway :)

fuck the regs

Why would you leave the game? High variance but always so good. One of the few games everyone walks away saying they have run bad and can almost mean it!

Because you've 9x'd your buy in, plus you only play twice a week on average and the 6 PLO doesn't get going much, so if you lose money in the game you're unlikely to get it back anytime soon, hence the players that are losing would be gambling a lot trying to get unstuck, so the chances of doing some of your winnings is high...

On this occasion Paul Got lucky played well and won more on the night... I'd be surprised if Paul 9x's his BI playing NLH

^^ Sounds like two great reasons to stay in the game!

Of course, if this sort of thing is important to you:

... then by all means quit and lock up a win.

But great games don't happen that often and you maximise your long-term profits by playing in them for as long as you can when you do find one running.

Again situational, I personally would stay; being that I play PLO on a regular basis and have a half decent bankroll, but if I was playing 1-2 NLH and 9x'd my buy in I'd most certainly leave as soon as the worm starts to turn...

I think I'm being naive in the sense assuming that 1k profit is a decent win for Paul and I'm not aware of his circumstance, only that he was recently burgled and used phrases like "nut peddling" etc.. So maybe he should stay and gamble it up, but even then you have to weigh the pros against the cons and how much the win means to him...

I disagree, I think the most profitable time to play is this time when stacks are deeper and people are losing/gambling more/in effect playing worse.

Saying that you should leave if you've 9x'd your buyin, but stay if you're level really doesnt make much sense, unless the money is now too important to you and is affecting your play, in which case you should certainly get up.

Should stay unless as pointed out the money is important to you or you feel that the wave you're riding is starting to turn.
When I play I prefer to join a game later as the winners have generally left and the losers are chasing and overall this has been definitley more profitable for me in the long run.

I stayed till all the fish have gone that's my normal plan