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Title: Facing an over-shove on a broadway board Post by: dtm75 on March 11, 2013, 10:38:20 AM Sunday Gala special at Leeds. Not a huge turnout, fairly weak field imho.
800,1600 blinds, no ante. Have 60k, 2nd/3rd in chips. Raise Ac Qh utg+1 to 4000, everyone folds apart from small blind who peels. Note, small blind (~50k) has been at the table 2 hands, no reads. Flop Aspades Jc Th (9,600) Small blind asks how much I'm playing? I let him see my stack. He ships. We? Title: Re: Facing an over-shove on a broadway board Post by: SuuPRlim on March 11, 2013, 11:32:15 AM problem with these tournaments (I used to play these gala ones in leeds all the time) is that you never can trust people to be spazzing around/playing wierd/randomly losing their heads.
If you called and told me he had JT/KJ/KQ or A8 or TT/AT I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear any of them. As played I think the standard (and this is a very thin generalization) is to be much more wary with weak aces, and much more scared with bottom set/two pair (it might come a Jack, and I wont know what to do, best just win it here etc) so with that in mind I think I'd just follllllld. Very good tournament this one though, more people should play it imo, £20 + 1 rebuy with £2k added to the prizepool. Title: Re: Facing an over-shove on a broadway board Post by: BulldozerD on March 11, 2013, 11:38:57 AM Agree with Dave but I'd just lol fold and let him show me JT or something.
Don't think this is the 2k added tho, I played it for the first time in ages a couple of weeks ago as it is last Saturday of the month. Was a pretty soft comp but i lost my head by auto raise/calling 20bb with AQ and an above average stack, whilst expecting to be good. My Gala mode was rusty Title: Re: Facing an over-shove on a broadway board Post by: swinebag22 on March 11, 2013, 01:18:12 PM Given the tourney is pretty "weak" you can fold here with confidence and pick up chips in other spots.
You may be crushing here but you don't have enough info on the villain to know how possible it is for him to have, A9-, 1 pair Jx and Tx and draw combos and play the hand this way. Title: Re: Facing an over-shove on a broadway board Post by: pleno1 on March 11, 2013, 02:30:10 PM Folding quickly.
Title: Re: Facing an over-shove on a broadway board Post by: dtm75 on March 11, 2013, 03:00:12 PM Given the tourney is pretty "weak" you can fold here with confidence and pick up chips in other spots. This was my rationale. Went on to chop it, but still went away dwelling over this one. Have faced similar spots before, and always think, what am I beating? Ax and Q9, 89 and a complete bluff? Q) Are these 500% of the pot, sized shoves always polarised? KQ/1010/JJ or air? He flipped over 99. When I alluded to (wondered what my dwell was all about) what I folded I received rub-downs for the next 4 hours. Thanks for the feedback Title: Re: Facing an over-shove on a broadway board Post by: MANTIS01 on March 11, 2013, 08:02:18 PM call
Title: Re: Facing an over-shove on a broadway board Post by: rfgqqabc on March 11, 2013, 08:25:27 PM Think what your stack is worth if you call and double up. Compare this to value of your stack if you fold.
Its a fold without much thought, you have the ability to chop after ;-) Title: Re: Facing an over-shove on a broadway board Post by: Bully87 on March 11, 2013, 08:41:22 PM Folding like yesterday.
Title: Re: Facing an over-shove on a broadway board Post by: dreenie on March 12, 2013, 03:06:56 AM I'm snapping once he asks to see my stack, it's the biggest tell in Live poker imo - If u have a great hand why ask this question? What do u need to know for?, Surely u can just open your eyes at a poker table and be aware of what everyone is doing and what they are playing around u.
For this reason alone I'm calling, plus we have a strong hand and would expect him to show up with KJ/QJ in this spot a lot, which we crush. |