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Title: Top Top any good
Post by: AdamM on March 31, 2013, 03:49:15 AM
APAT Main Event at DTD
100/200
UTG Raise 500
New lady at table playing 30k calls UTG+1
Another caller then I find   Ad Qs in position and make it 2200 35k back)

Raiser folds, lady calls.
Other caller folds

 Qd 4h 8h
She checks
I bet 3800
She snap raises to 10k

Is my hand ever good here or is it a nailed on set of 4 s?


Title: Re: Top Top any good
Post by: LonOhRay on March 31, 2013, 04:15:00 AM
Is there a reentry?

I put it in here always though, get shown too many Qx.

Doubt she bluffs with much frequency but there's infinite heart combos and she can definitely have worse Queens.

Live tells though, I don't see people snap raise super strong hands but their minds are made up with flush draws




Title: Re: Top Top any good
Post by: rfgqqabc on March 31, 2013, 05:37:39 AM
Is there a reentry?

I put it in here always though, get shown too many Qx.

Doubt she bluffs with much frequency but there's infinite heart combos and she can definitely have worse Queens.

Live tells though, I don't see people snap raise super strong hands but their minds are made up with flush draws


I completely bottled making this post because I'm folding everything atm live, it doesn't help I see the best hand when I call. The snap raise would def make me put it in. Everyone tanks with a set cos its hollywood time innit. Got to look and feel like a boss when you flop it right. :P


Title: Re: Top Top any good
Post by: SuuPRlim on March 31, 2013, 10:38:49 AM
pretty sure id fold.

although don't reallyy disagree with lonohray's post I just think she raises the monsters 100% and calls with those other hands quite considerably more, vs a generic lady player in live poker this isn't a spot id be getting 150bigs in.


Title: Re: Top Top any good
Post by: AdamM on March 31, 2013, 11:16:29 AM
no reentry.

pretty sure there's finite heart combinations :)

after a long think, I asked her "which set" and she stiffened up slightly, in that sort of definitely NOT giving anything away way.

Didn't feel she was check raising so big with KQ or flush draw, unless it was  Ahrt Qh

decided there were better spots to exploit an edge in position, so put it down.


Title: Re: Top Top any good
Post by: pleno1 on March 31, 2013, 12:00:49 PM
flop size seems too big, i dont really wanna triple/jam here, so odnt really need to set it up.


Title: Re: Top Top any good
Post by: GreekStein on March 31, 2013, 01:34:29 PM

She snap raises to 10k

FOLD


Title: Re: Top Top any good
Post by: EvilPie on March 31, 2013, 02:28:40 PM
I'd need a really good reason to get 150 bigs in with top top.

I can't find one here.



Title: Re: Top Top any good
Post by: wazz on May 22, 2013, 03:52:15 PM
I'd need a really good reason to get 150 bigs in with top top.

I can't find one here.



I see this thinking a lot nowadays and I think it's pretty bad: the size of the pot on the flop should determine how much money we want to get into the pot with varying hands, not the size of the blinds.


Title: Re: Top Top any good
Post by: pleno1 on May 22, 2013, 04:16:44 PM
fkn love Wazz.