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Title: intresting irish spot
Post by: Ironside on April 04, 2013, 08:57:31 PM
what do i keep with the Qd 2 pair or the FD?

Full Tilt Poker Game #32433245499: $300 Guarantee (251928867), Table 5 - 40/80 - No Limit Irish - 20:35:47 WET - 2013/04/04 [15:35:47 ET - 2013/04/04]
Seat 1: METP (240)
Seat 2: Janinky (7,670)
Seat 3: invidia_84 (11,420)
Seat 4: DirtYpAnsA (10,055)
Seat 5: McKikky (2,010)
Seat 6: Calimero71 (2,185)
Seat 7: PiPseN23 (5,720)
Seat 8: IronsideBLONDE (4,615)
Seat 9: play157 (6,415)
PiPseN23 posts the small blind of 40
IronsideBLONDE posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IronsideBLONDE [Qd 2s 8d Ks]
play157 calls 80
METP folds
Janinky folds
invidia_84 folds
DirtYpAnsA folds
McKikky has 15 seconds left to act
McKikky raises to 160
Calimero71 calls 160
PiPseN23 calls 120
IronsideBLONDE calls 80
play157 calls 80
*** FLOP *** [6d Qs 2d] (Total Pot: 800, 5 Players)
PiPseN23 checks
IronsideBLONDE has 15 seconds left to act
IronsideBLONDE bets 380
play157 folds
McKikky raises to 760
Calimero71 has 15 seconds left to act
Calimero71 folds
PiPseN23 folds
IronsideBLONDE raises to 4,455, and is all in
McKikky calls 1,090, and is all in


Title: Re: intresting irish spot
Post by: MC on April 04, 2013, 09:36:05 PM
I would presume it has to be Q2 we keep


Title: Re: intresting irish spot
Post by: Ironside on April 04, 2013, 09:48:31 PM
you think keeping the 2 pair is vulnerable  and maybe even behind drawing thin?

keeping the FD might be better as if we are behind we have outs
and if we are against a better flush draw our queen is still in good shape and have 2 of his outs?


Title: Re: intresting irish spot
Post by: The Camel on April 04, 2013, 10:23:07 PM
3 card irish I would definitely keep Q2, in 4 card I would be more inclined to keep the flush draw.


Title: Re: intresting irish spot
Post by: Ironside on April 04, 2013, 10:25:36 PM
yeah 3 card its a no brain keep the 2 pair


Title: Re: intresting irish spot
Post by: mulhuzz on April 04, 2013, 11:54:32 PM
Assuming he shoves all his FDs not instead of making a weird raise -call I'm inclined to assume top and bottom isn't good and we should draw with a pair ESP since there aren't many other draws he can have...

So if we're ahead now it's probably because he has Kxdd or Axdd.

Most of the time a bare Q is good here vs those hands anyway, but if we're behind to sets we have much more equity than he does when he's behind, if that makes any sense?


Title: Re: intresting irish spot
Post by: Ironside on April 05, 2013, 04:23:39 AM
ok i took the Q8dd option and help v the a9dd but it had me thinking what other hands i could of been facing and
how i would of faired against them

at time i ruled out AA KK and QQ as i would of expected a preflop raise and i wouldnt of seen the flop

AKdd Axdd AQ 66 and baby diamond draws were also in range maybe even baby diamond draw and gutshot

and thought that against all the hands apart from the 66 i was better off with the 2 pair than i am with flush draw

it just felt at first glance that i should keep the 2 pair then as i thought about it and clock clicked i changed my mind

then after hand was played out i changed it again


Title: Re: intresting irish spot
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 05, 2013, 12:18:07 PM
btw this is closer to a fold than an AI.