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Title: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: h on April 12, 2013, 04:03:02 PM

been a while since i have played sit a gos
played this other night and was perplexed as to correct line


Online  18 man $10 Turbo sit and go  3 placed paid
3 left  4 min levels blinds 400 and 800


1st   $90
2 nd $54
3 rd  $36
   
no tracking software both other players until now apear to be playing ABC  rasing most pair and big aces (that ive seen go to show down)

got the impresion the shortest stack has been waiting for hand to get it in with                         

short stack UTG playing  5144 ALL IN
Chip leader in SB  400 in middle 11355 back calls
the 5144

Hero self in BB  800 in middle 10501 back

what do we fold here ?
what do we call here  ?
what do we shove here ? (expecting SB to call it off )




Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: Sulphur man on April 12, 2013, 05:14:09 PM
88+,AK,AQs+ Pushing with these hands will be profitable if we give the Button 28% pushing range
and the small blind 12% calling range.

This is what Nash ICM suggests.
http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sngs/icmcalculator.html?action=calculate&bb=800&sb=400&ante=50&structure=0.4%2C0.3%2C0.2%2C0.1&s1=5144&s2=11355&s3=10501 (http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sngs/icmcalculator.html?action=calculate&bb=800&sb=400&ante=50&structure=0.4%2C0.3%2C0.2%2C0.1&s1=5144&s2=11355&s3=10501)


Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: Sulphur man on April 12, 2013, 05:16:13 PM
What did you have here?


Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: h on April 12, 2013, 05:30:16 PM
What did you have here?

 Tc Td


Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: rfgqqabc on April 12, 2013, 05:37:13 PM
I first thought QQ+ but then decided JJ+/AK i guess.


Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: Sulphur man on April 12, 2013, 05:46:38 PM
Ran it through SNGwiz with you holding JJ after first reading thread. So close.


Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: MC on April 12, 2013, 06:02:38 PM
Chance of me folding TT in-game here is about 0%


Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: MC on April 12, 2013, 06:32:32 PM
Just realise he called rather than reshoved. This makes it a little different, going to be a read dependant on whether we think this is his nuttier hands or weaker.



Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: Sulphur man on April 12, 2013, 09:01:46 PM
Just realise he called rather than reshoved. This makes it a little different, going to be a read dependant on whether we think this is his nuttier hands or weaker.


Ran it through SNGwiz mate. Took a guess at ranges from OP
think they are fair. What do you think?

Difference between 3rd/2nd place cash is not a huge ICM decision,
would be worse should big stack take win this pot and we go HU with
a big deficit. Nash charts seem reasonable(link above).


Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: PutYouOnAK/AQ on April 12, 2013, 10:04:57 PM
Never folding. Jamming all day long


Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: h on April 13, 2013, 12:43:01 AM
thanks for all replies

my instincts was screaming to shove

i actual did a fold 

played too many sats lately i think .........


Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: Dewi_cool on April 13, 2013, 12:50:35 AM
easy fold


Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: corkeye on April 13, 2013, 06:17:13 PM
3 handed itm I am getting it in without much thought even with next to no FE


Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: Sulphur man on April 13, 2013, 06:39:11 PM
easy fold

Explain.


Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: rfgqqabc on April 13, 2013, 07:29:34 PM
I first thought QQ+ but then decided JJ+/AK i guess.

Surprised by 8s to be honest feels very light. Doubt I fold tt ingame either though


Title: Re: last 3 in 18 man sit and go facing all in and call
Post by: Nit Tendencies on April 18, 2013, 08:52:20 AM
I'd call 99+ AQo+.