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Title: Ever winning? Post by: TL900 on April 30, 2013, 02:11:16 PM PokerStars Zoom Hand #97904763095: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2013/04/30 13:16:53 WET [2013/04/30 8:16:53 ET]
Table 'Baade' 6-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: kovi257 ($53.28 in chips) Seat 2: tkmalt ($137.86 in chips) Seat 3: Maks.Krytski ($39.50 in chips) Seat 4: fagrello ($90.29 in chips) Seat 5: king_blog ($65.17 in chips) Seat 6: Mt.Spewmore ($61.19 in chips) tkmalt: posts small blind $0.25 Maks.Krytski: posts big blind $0.50 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Mt.Spewmore [Ts Th] fagrello: raises $1 to $1.50 king_blog: folds Mt.Spewmore: raises $3.25 to $4.75 kovi257: folds tkmalt: folds Maks.Krytski: folds fagrello: calls $3.25 *** FLOP *** [3s Kc Js] fagrello: checks Mt.Spewmore: checks *** TURN *** [3s Kc Js] [Tc] fagrello: checks Mt.Spewmore: bets $6.56 fagrello: calls $6.56 *** RIVER *** [3s Kc Js Tc] [6c] fagrello: checks Mt.Spewmore: bets $14.95 fagrello: raises $64.03 to $78.98 and is all-in Mt.Spewmore: Villian unknown Title: Re: Ever winning? Post by: pleno1 on April 30, 2013, 02:16:16 PM 3betting TT pre flop would be really bad here readless, just cawl. although guess i know why as per skype :D
Title: Re: Ever winning? Post by: mulhuzz on April 30, 2013, 02:23:32 PM mmm, his line seems weird -- think I'm gonna make him show me a hand here.
Title: Re: Ever winning? Post by: muckthenuts on April 30, 2013, 04:47:46 PM Would call. Set seems to have shriveled to a bluffcatcher but he would surely seize initiative in some way ott with a fd, and your 3bpre/then flop check will induce people to spazz a non zero % of the time.
Title: Re: Ever winning? Post by: rfgqqabc on April 30, 2013, 09:14:22 PM Would flat pre.
Folding river. Its not a bluff and we lose to all his value hands apart from KJ/33/KT and he rarely has them. There is no reason some random would expect you to not have AQ here, so I doubt its a bluff. With some tendencies further info I call here. Title: Re: Ever winning? Post by: Pugwashed on May 02, 2013, 03:49:16 AM Flatting pre is way better than 3betting.
River is pretty gross. Think this is a fold. Title: Re: Ever winning? Post by: TL900 on May 02, 2013, 12:09:18 PM Alright I reversed the hand. Obv I know 3betting TT is bad here but I felt like this was the top of villians range by the river. I had Ac Kh and check jammed the river to try and get AA/AK to fold, I also thought it was possible to get him to fold stronger hands if he was in any way competent.
Title: Re: Ever winning? Post by: Pugwashed on May 02, 2013, 12:32:58 PM Alright I reversed the hand. Obv I know 3betting TT is bad here but I felt like this was the top of villians range by the river. I had Ac Kh and check jammed the river to try and get AA/AK to fold, I also thought it was possible to get him to fold stronger hands if he was in any way competent. I'd never try it vs a random at 50nl. Regs might fold AK/AA if they ever have them but they're cbetting the flop with them close to 100% of the time. Once the flop checks through I'd just bet turn and river for value (bet/folding both). Title: Re: Ever winning? Post by: TL900 on May 02, 2013, 12:51:23 PM Alright I reversed the hand. Obv I know 3betting TT is bad here but I felt like this was the top of villians range by the river. I had Ac Kh and check jammed the river to try and get AA/AK to fold, I also thought it was possible to get him to fold stronger hands if he was in any way competent. I'd never try it vs a random at 50nl. Regs might fold AK/AA if they ever have them but they're cbetting the flop with them close to 100% of the time. Once the flop checks through I'd just bet turn and river for value (bet/folding both). yea ur probably right, too much hanging around with JB! Title: Re: Ever winning? Post by: SuuPRlim on May 02, 2013, 04:29:11 PM fold, makes a BD lush and got giddy imo
Title: Re: Ever winning? Post by: jgcblack on May 02, 2013, 05:12:21 PM Alright I reversed the hand. Obv I know 3betting TT is bad here but I felt like this was the top of villians range by the river. I had Ac Kh and check jammed the river to try and get AA/AK to fold, I also thought it was possible to get him to fold stronger hands if he was in any way competent. I'd never try it vs a random at 50nl. Regs might fold AK/AA if they ever have them but they're cbetting the flop with them close to 100% of the time. Once the flop checks through I'd just bet turn and river for value (bet/folding both). yea ur probably right, too much hanging around with JB! This... (From Ed, not you) Title: Re: Ever winning? Post by: muckthenuts on May 05, 2013, 07:38:38 AM Alright I reversed the hand. Obv I know 3betting TT is bad here but I felt like this was the top of villians range by the river. I had Ac Kh and check jammed the river to try and get AA/AK to fold, I also thought it was possible to get him to fold stronger hands if he was in any way competent. I'm not entirely convinced you can rep much though. Your flush combos will surely be pair+fd only otherwise you would bet turn (and will a lot anyway), and you can't realllyyyy always be playing AQ this way as villain can definitely have a flush. Title: Re: Ever winning? Post by: SuuPRlim on May 05, 2013, 09:35:41 AM Id have folded. but i never call river bets
Title: Re: Ever winning? Post by: Young_gun on May 05, 2013, 09:19:52 PM As played after you 3 bet pre why do you not C bet here? surely although its a good part of his range it would be a better line to c bet 100% here in this spot either take it there, get raised your beat, or can see a cheap showdown
I prob call pre, then play it same but fold river as played cant see many hands we beat other then 2 pair Title: Re: Ever winning? Post by: Eddycadub on May 09, 2013, 12:14:58 AM If i find myself in this spot with TT I'm happy to bet/fold, in my experience this is almost never a bluff. So you would have got me, ul nice try.
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