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Live £1/1 cash at DTD. Game is kind of slowing down kind of, stacks involved are all ~£150 and I comfortably cover. Think we are 8 handed.

Villain is Nik Flanagan, been fairly active and been caught bluffing a decent amount in heads up pots, pretty sure he's aware of what his image must be like though.

Woman limps UTG, kind of new the to table limped a few hands and played them passively post. Nik opens to £5 from HJ, I peel the btn with  Ts Tc, SB peels and UTG peels.

- FLOP -

(£21)

 2h 2d 4d

Checked to me, I bet £13, fold, woman peels, Nik CR's to 35, I call, woman folds

- TURN -

(£104)

 8d

Nik checks, I check

- RIVER -

 9d

(£104)

Nik bets £40... Hero? WWYD?

Just seems like such a weird hand in general, would love to know other peoples opinions on the way I played the hand too.

Nick probably has JJ/ QQ with a diamond...

Could be tempted to put him in a little pain by shoving here, however I have seen him bet/call in such spots before.

Think you played the hand nicely, unsure about flop call.  Think with the lady involved I probably fold flop, it changes Nick's ranges somewhat and imo makes them much more 'value heavy'.

#heknowstheydontfold

Lead even smaller on river like 26 then scoop/fold.

Did you check to induce a bluff or to c/f?

I think c/c turn has turned this into bingo now. I normally think betting small here is good on river but 40 into 104 in position from your oppo  just stinks.

Shove.

He is on the button, so acts last...

 :)

Oh no!

So he might be doing to me what I was thinking of doing in his position? Dang. He is sneaky. Ok think again. Bet sizing a bit off? No bollox to it.

AAAAAALLLLLLL. IN!  Shove em hard and fast now and look right in his eyes!


I gotta stop these late nights

Hes pretty tez so probably bluffing again

id defo 3b pre-flop, unless there is a really really bad player in the blinds we're trying to keep involved but TT isn't that easy to play multi-way post flop.

What happens in these hands almost always (and has happened here) is we have to play guessing games with an under-repped hand

IDK whats in the water rounnd here for shove the river, it's a pretty easy call with any diamond for Nik, I can't think of a single hand we get to the river with that contains the lone Ad (may Ad 3x / Ad 5x but that seems bad from us) we'd have had to have checked the turn with the nut flush which he knows most of the time we wouldn't do. So when we shove we're repping exclusively a really ropey flop peel with a gut-shot or a turn slow-played nut flush. Nik could defo be bluffing here btw so I prefer a call over a shove.

However, given we have one of the worst hands we'll likely get herewith I'd be very comfortable just folding.

Why did you check the turn?

Might just make it 57 and call it off on the flop, not really expecting Nik to be induced but he might decide we have a draw when we do this, will spend 5 mins thinking on it. I don't see a decision on the river tbh,

Wtf?

Can't even remember posting this one! Weeeeeee. What a night out.

Hey mate. So are we just happy to 3bet fold TT here? Villain playing ~150bbs and has ISO'd an utg limp.

I had kind of built up a pretty aggro image but still wouldn't feel massively comfortable getting it in there against Nik. I guess if I was in the SB or BB I would be happy to 3bet for the reasons you mentioned but on the BTN was happy to play with a under repped hand which I can make good decisions with post-flop with position? Also the blinds were good for the occasional squeeze and had ~150 too so would be an easy New york back raise if this happened  ;karabiner;


I checked the turn because the hand just threw me. I couldn't think for the life of me what hand range he would take this line here with. Was pretty sure he didn't have 2 diamonds though. I checked the turn to either induce a bluff OTR or get value from an insanely played worse 2 pair hand that he's now slowed down with because the  8d would of been a really bad card for him. Maybe this is bad, I have no idea but I just didn't get what was going on.

I agree too that I like just getting it in on the flop. Wish I would of done that. But never thought Nik would have taken this line with the hand he had.

I think I'd bet the turn, but I don't know how I'd react to a turn c/raise but not sure how concerned we should be. Don't see how it can be a major mistake to not put chips in when we are at least somewhat unsure.

Nik had AA?

Thoughts on bet/folding £40-50ish on the turn when checked to then checking river? We can get value from worse pairs and enables us a cheaper way to get to showdown with our hand then check/guess on the river 

I told Nik I wouldn't say what he had lol, so I won't. I guess on ze turn I thought when he checked I could bet but I just got the read In the moment I was either pretty far ahead and he'd kind of given up + I'd pick of a lot of value on the river (bluffs or crying check-calls)  OR he was nutted with 88 or something or a flush and was tarping me with his SPR as it is knowing he can shove river anyway if I check and expecting me to bet the turn a decent amount anyway when he checks.

I'm sure betting turn is fine too though, just didn't like the idea of bet-folding turn when we can win at showdown a lot. But then again there is £104 to pick up too.

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Fwiw this entire hand is SUPER atypical for me, especially this line.

Definitely 3 betting pre-flop.
As played Fold River.

Paha Nik! Fair enough. Derby lad, what's your plan then? 3b/5b or 3b/fold? I guess I should 3bet because a lot of people have said it, just curious on our plan for the hand. Can't just go around 3betting folk without a plan can we?

huh?

I would have folded pre Jack. You struggle playing out of position and put yourself in tough spots.