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Title: ze fkn russians
Post by: pleno1 on May 17, 2013, 01:32:18 AM
i peeled bb 2 hands ago vs him, called j83, turned  (3) checked throuh and i bliuffed 3 river he called with aj to a small river bet.


its the 10r,
no reads 1650 runners and in last 40, we both double avg.


i would only like advice on the river and potentially pre.
PokerStars Hand #98686047044: Tournament #80501064$10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXII (4000/8000) - 2013/05/17 2:10:38 CET [2013/05/16 20:10:38 ET]
Table '805010644 46' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: skyfall1930 (212878 in chips)
Seat 2: SKOFILD_LEME (448496 in chips)
Seat 3: hopelst757 (359004 in chips)
Seat 4: Myschkin_Lev (98202 in chips)
Seat 5: pads1161 (523780 in chips)
Seat 6: Belabacsi (68973 in chips)
Seat 7: agrianutspro (196676 in chips)
Seat 8: bleubillz (529113 in chips)
skyfall1930: posts the ante 800
SKOFILD_LEME: posts the ante 800
hopelst757: posts the ante 800
Myschkin_Lev: posts the ante 800
pads1161: posts the ante 800
Belabacsi: posts the ante 800
agrianutspro: posts the ante 800
bleubillz: posts the ante 800
Belabacsi: posts small blind 4000
agrianutspro: posts big blind 8000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [Ah Kd]
bleubillz: raises 16000 to 24000
skyfall1930: folds
SKOFILD_LEME: folds
hopelst757: folds
Myschkin_Lev: folds
pads1161: calls 24000
Belabacsi: folds
agrianutspro: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qh 4s As]
bleubillz: checks
pads1161: checks
*** TURN *** [Qh 4s As] [4d]
bleubillz: checks
pads1161: bets 27777
bleubillz: calls 27777
*** RIVER *** [Qh 4s As 4d] [Jc]
bleubillz: checks
pads1161: bets 67777


Title: Re: ze fkn russians
Post by: LonOhRay on May 17, 2013, 04:12:49 AM
Like, may even go bigger on river 88888, don't think you can induce anything by going tiny


Title: Re: ze fkn russians
Post by: rfgqqabc on May 17, 2013, 04:15:18 AM
Like, may even go bigger on river 88888, don't think you can induce anything by going tiny

guy has like 575 so 75 is a good inflection point imo, I think just getting paid is important here, his range is weak.


Title: Re: ze fkn russians
Post by: pleno1 on May 17, 2013, 04:25:26 AM
i mean i dnt even know if we should bet riv, nevermind going bigger, if anyhing smaller imo.

he 3x utg.


Title: Re: ze fkn russians
Post by: LonOhRay on May 17, 2013, 04:36:10 AM
Is 3x not his normal open then?

Reasoning for betting river and being larger was with the bluff two hands previous, its in his memory. He may well look you up with KQ KJ QJ QT JT or even his pairs

Doubt a random in 11r is checking better on river

Didn't read the part where he called small river bet with aj on j8333 previously


Title: Re: ze fkn russians
Post by: rfgqqabc on May 17, 2013, 05:04:39 AM
i mean i dnt even know if we should bet riv, nevermind going bigger, if anyhing smaller imo.

he 3x utg.
trivial bet/fold I like this size, i dont think he has many aces here, but people don't like folding good hands.


Title: Re: ze fkn russians
Post by: mulhuzz on May 17, 2013, 10:50:45 AM
once we don't three bet and we check back flop we 100% have to bet river. like the size.


Title: Re: ze fkn russians
Post by: youthnkzR on May 17, 2013, 12:03:57 PM
b/f river. Sizing is pretty good but think we can go anywhere up to 85/90.


Title: Re: ze fkn russians
Post by: outragous76 on May 17, 2013, 12:10:16 PM
check river, not too many hands we beat that he pays us with

i mean if he has QJ its a bit cold for him but he can still see that his 2 pair isnt going to be good too often


Title: Re: ze fkn russians
Post by: wazz on May 21, 2013, 10:43:43 AM
Definitely bet the river, after flatting pre and checking the flop our hand is massively underrepped, we have a bluffy image, and when villain checks the flop, check-calls the turn and then checks the river this deep we have the best hand like absolutely always, not even thinking about what to do when raised because it happens like 1/1000.