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Title: River spot Post by: Derbylad on May 20, 2013, 11:55:33 PM PokerStars Zoom Hand #98872939686: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2013/05/20 23:35:29 WET [2013/05/20 18:35:29 ET]
Table 'Baade' 6-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: natedogg633 ($49.91 in chips) Seat 2: michooo82 ($46.93 in chips) Seat 3: GHolden7 ($119.34 in chips) Seat 4: Achiles12 ($54.73 in chips) Seat 5: Fabulous999 ($51 in chips) Seat 6: Waldinhooo ($79.95 in chips) michooo82: posts small blind $0.25 GHolden7: posts big blind $0.50 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to GHolden7 [Th Ah] Achiles12: folds Fabulous999: folds Waldinhooo: folds natedogg633: folds michooo82: raises $0.50 to $1 GHolden7: raises $2 to $3 michooo82: calls $2 *** FLOP *** [Qd 5s Kc] michooo82: checks GHolden7: bets $3.60 michooo82: calls $3.60 *** TURN *** [Qd 5s Kc] [Kh] michooo82: checks GHolden7: checks *** RIVER *** [Qd 5s Kc Kh] [Jc] michooo82: bets $3.50 GHolden7: ?? Flat? or Raise/Fold?... No stats Title: Re: River spot Post by: wazz on May 21, 2013, 12:01:37 AM Raise to $12 and fold to a jam. You have the best hand here a lot and he definitely calls with worse. Buy in full!
Title: Re: River spot Post by: Young_gun on May 21, 2013, 12:46:19 AM Buy in full! Pretty sure he has he had $119 start of hand.. As for hand raise bit more like $17.50 and prob fold to a shove just over pot Title: Re: River spot Post by: Tal on May 21, 2013, 01:02:07 AM How often would we expect someone to call our river raise with a worse hand?
Raise SB and call a 3bet. Check call Check Bet call With...KT? K9s? Is there anything else? Would all the other hands either raise or fold? Really considering just a call, here. We got lucky and get some wonga, but raising feels greedy. Title: Re: River spot Post by: DMorgan on May 21, 2013, 01:30:18 AM With his sizing I'd expect to have the best hand here pretty much always. His sizing suggests some showdown value, most likely Qx and since you check back the flop he's not gunna give you credit for much Kx so I'd be sizing this pretty big. $16 imo.
Title: Re: River spot Post by: wazz on May 21, 2013, 10:21:56 AM Buy in full! Pretty sure he has he had $119 start of hand.. As for hand raise bit more like $17.50 and prob fold to a shove just over pot well done mike on reading comprehension Title: Re: River spot Post by: mulhuzz on May 21, 2013, 10:43:31 AM With his sizing I'd expect to have the best hand here pretty much always. His sizing suggests some showdown value, most likely Qx and since you check back the flop he's not gunna give you credit for much Kx so I'd be sizing this pretty big. $16 imo. seems good. I maybe make it even a touch bigger. Title: Re: River spot Post by: Tal on May 21, 2013, 01:01:17 PM If we generally have the best hand, that doesn't necessarily mean we should bet. The only justification for a value bet is we have to be satisfied worse hands call us.
What range of hands (and how frequently) would you expect to be called by? This would IMO be the determinant for a) betting and b) bet sizing. Title: Re: River spot Post by: wazz on May 21, 2013, 01:09:52 PM By checking turn we've taken Kx out of our range; we'd surely also bet QQ as Kx is never folding. So AT is the top of our range for getting to the river this way, let alone raising. At $50/1 zoom villain can have AK, KT, K9, probably all the way down to a select few combos of Kxs, or hell even AQ that doesn't believe our river raise (for aforementioned reasons) and thinks he's inducing with that sizing. We definitely get called by worse.
Title: Re: River spot Post by: Tal on May 21, 2013, 01:28:36 PM I'm obviously a hard core nit.
I would fold almost everything worse than AT in a vacuum pretty much all the time. If I had specific info, obv that's different. Lol nittaments Title: Re: River spot Post by: wazz on May 21, 2013, 01:29:39 PM I'm obviously a hard core nit. I would fold almost everything worse than AT in a vacuum pretty much all the time. If I had specific info, obv that's different. Lol nittaments so against you it's a flat on the river Title: Re: River spot Post by: Tal on May 21, 2013, 01:30:11 PM I'm obviously a hard core nit. I would fold almost everything worse than AT in a vacuum pretty much all the time. If I had specific info, obv that's different. Lol nittaments so against you it's a flat on the river ;) |